Famitsu: Ein and Jacky (VF) enter DOA5U with New (Returning) Stage

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KwonJigglypuff

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I'm okay with more VF characters as long as :
- they still plan to make a DOA/VF crossover for PS4
- they create original character and update the already existing roster (Helena's mixup and technics)
- Jacky has a swimsuit
 
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Unexpected levels of VF hate going on here.

I get that the VF characters are better in some ways than DOA characters, but seriously? You guys should be happy that there are actually decent characters in your game at all.

So much salt.
No. I shouldn't be happy. Seven years is how long DOA has been out of commission. And putting some goddamn VF characters, that don't no true Dead or Alive fan probably even remotely cares about, in this game? Is like giving someone Good and Plenty, its just retarded.
 

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You can manage 15 different hairstyles/hats with triggers and bumpers if I counted correctly, 8 different glasses via each direction on the dpad, and 6 different panties with face button combinations minus B/circle.

LB, LT, RB, RT
LB+LT, LB+RB, LB+RT
LT+RB, LT+RT
RB+RT
LB+LT+RB, LB+LT+RT, LB+RB+RT,
LT+RB+RT
LB+LT+RB+RT

Up, down, left right, diagonals

A, X, Y,
A+X, A+Y
X+Y
A+X+Y

Take out the up, down, and diagonals. Those would affect costume selection, same for the a+? Macros.
 

Adamleelight

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Yeah, I'd rather they chill with the VF, if they have to add more guests. Make it someone different from another game, but honestly I want new DOA characters, you know? ones that will stay in the game for good.

Guest characters are cool, but you have to understand a guest character is as the word implies a "guest" they come and they go. They're meant to be some kind of bonus. Or just a fun little show of respect, but this is overkill. I want to see the effort put into a new character so they can stay in the DOA franchise
 

Rikuto

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No. I shouldn't be happy. Seven years is how long DOA has been out of commission. And putting some goddamn VF characters, that don't no true Dead or Alive fan probably even remotely cares about, in this game? Is like giving someone Good and Plenty, its just retarded.

It's about the gameplay and the tools available, not the bullshit face on the character you decide to pick. Jacky is bound to have good tools, he is fine addition.

People are whining and crying about the VF characters so much, let me tell you something. Out of all of the characters I've had to fight in the tournaments, it's DOA characters, not VF characters, that keep knocking me out. Now why is that you think?

They are not a problem. If anything, they force team ninja to buff the DOA characters so they can actually compete with them. You should be praising them for bothering to grace your title.
 

crapoZK

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What I need is:
-ALL Costumes from previous DOA's (And some new ones)
-ALL Stages from previous DOA's (And new ones)
-ALL characters from previous DOA's (Apart from Genra, that shit's cray)
- Jean Kujo, El Blaze and Aoi.
All of those things I want, and I'm good.
 

crapoZK

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Yeah, I'd rather they chill with the VF, if they have to add more guests. Make it someone different from another game, but honestly I want new DOA characters, you know? ones that will stay in the game for good.

Guest characters are cool, but you have to understand a guest character is as the word implies a "guest" they come and they go. They're meant to be some kind of bonus. Or just a fun little show of respect, but this is overkill. I want to see the effort put into a new character so they can stay in the DOA franchise
They've already got permission from SEGA to use any of their characters, so what's the point in searching for new rights from another company? Plus, it takes a couple months to a year to get it approved, so they might as well use VF characters to stop the hassle. Logic. For DOA5U, there aren't going to be brand new characters, they're saving that for DOA6 as they do with every other DOA game. I think we're only going to see classics, fan-favorites, and cross-overs.
 

grap3fruitman

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it takes up potential character space
Look moron, I already tried to explain this to you but you clearly can't read so I'll have to explain it again. They already have all the tools in place to bring over the VF characters so it takes almost no effort to bring over more. Certainly so when in comparison to adding a brand new character. It's a lot of additional content for basically nothing.

Look, here's something that should cheer you up: click.
 

Chaos

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Characters we've seen so far....

Momiji
Leon (we didn't see his face yet)
Jacky
Ein
???????
I wonder who's going to be next? Anyway, I can't wait to see more. :)
 

KwonJigglypuff

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Wow, nice price drop.

Anyway, I guess Jacky is one of the most popular character in VF. Kage could be the next one. Right ? Who is the next "popular" character from VF?
 
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Look moron, I already tried to explain this to you but you clearly can't read so I'll have to explain it again. They already have all the tools in place to bring over the VF characters so it takes almost no effort to bring over more. Certainly so when in comparison to adding a brand new character. It's a lot of additional content for basically nothing.

Look, here's something that should cheer you up: click.
Look grape I'd love to play the Virtua Fighter series later on. But now im trying to get my fix on DOA, feel me? I can care less if they add them or not. But add them last, not in the middle.
 

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guest shmest ... The VF characters are Solid and well established. Have personality and unique fighting styles ...

Wolf is nothing like any DOA wrestler..
Kage is nothing like any DOA ninja..

and Jacky sure as hell plays nothing like Jann Lee..

We got no sumo wrestler and no monkey style..

Lei Fei is so unique he might as well be a game on his own...

I can go on..

The way they transitioned Akira, Sarah and Pai could not have been any better.. They play, sound and flow great in the game. I am certain Jacky will be just the same.

What u guys fail to realize is that these characters not only add value to the game, but are a great experimentation for TN for potential future characters in the next DOAs as the VF characters add elements and game mechanics that other DOA characters lack ...For example:

- Flops (hitting after a hard knockdown like Akira 46P, Sarah 4H+K, Pai 3/9P+K stance into P)
- Rebounce (Mid juggle Sarah 4H+K, Pai 46H+K, Akira 43P and 214P)
- Moving stances (Pai 3/9P+K after strings)
- Throw combo on block (Sarah's FL 3H+K H+P)
- Guaranteed strings on block (Akira's 236P+K>43P+K>214P>46P+K)
- Multi level Sabaki/Parry (Sarah P+K and Akiras 3H )
- Move cancellation (Sarah and Akira KH)
- Just frame inputs (Akira just frame knee and (rise)3PP , Sarah 4PKK4K and 4PKKH+K and FL P2KKK)
- Plus frame shenanigans

Jacky will only be adding to this with his neutral High P auto parry .. and I'm sure he will add more (wasn't a Jacky player in VF so I cant elaborate more) ..

you guys need to chill out and have faith in the team that is trying their best to give you a great experience. SO WHAT IF THEY DON'T COME BACK ! appreciate the game for what it is .. and YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IF THEY WILL OR WONT !

Its like you completely got blinded to all the other things that are being answered:
- New move sets for existing cast
- Re-balance
- More customization
- More "secondary" content
- Old school stages returning
- Old Characters returning
- And YOU ALREADY GOT SOMEONE NEW WITH MOMIJI!
- New mechanics with whatever Power Launcher is.
Seriously, the people complaining are fucking stupid and don't know whats good for them.

I say give us more VF .. it would add nothing but value to the current roster no matter who they choose.
 

Ghosty-J

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There is one thing that concerns me about Jacky, which is also a big concern that has me baffled at the possibility of Lei-Fei's inclusion. I can't figure out how Team Ninja can get around Jacky's :F+P+K: inputs without interfering with his current moveset. They've rearranged Akira's commands in this manner since this specific input is used for Tag, Sidestepping, and Taunting. Unless they have the bright idea of making Tag its own separate button again, I can't help but have a few concerns regarding Jacky's iconic stance switching antics, among other moves like his command backstep.
 

EMPEROR_COW

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There is one thing that concerns me about Jacky, which is also a big concern that has me baffled at the possibility of Lei-Fei's inclusion. I can't figure out how Team Ninja can get around Jacky's :F+P+K: inputs without interfering with his current moveset. They've rearranged Akira's commands in this manner since this specific input is used for Tag, Sidestepping, and Taunting. Unless they have the bright idea of making Tag its own separate button again, I can't help but have a few concerns regarding Jacky's iconic stance switching antics, among other moves like his command backstep.

That used to be my concern with akira , sarah and pai before DOA5...
they managed to alter it by using P+K inputs instead... I'm sure jacky will be no different..

I'm ok with the minor input changes.
 
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