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Awesmic
Awesmic
Apparently, sharing tech when nobody "knows" you as a player or simply don't like you because of how you play compared to others is also frowned upon. So I don't blame those people for withholding tech.
ChaolanLegacy
ChaolanLegacy
I mean, back when internet wasn't a thing and arcades were almost everywhere a lot of people were hiding tech. Thing is, fighting games are much bigger now than they were back then, to the point where everything should be available to learn for a player who has a fresh start in X fighting game in order to make everything feel more welcoming in order to increase the game's playerbase.
ChaolanLegacy
ChaolanLegacy
That, however, can also act as a double-edged sword since the better players (if you're good enough to win big tournaments or to get consistently into top 32-8) know your tech and they probably labbed out everything already, so you're destroying your chances at being able to abuse the tech when it would truly matter. Honestly, its up to the player to share or hide tech.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
@ChaolanLegacy There's no pure evidence to withhold that though. Losses can come from any situations as well as a player under pressure. A tech that mighty resulting in an opponent losing would get changed either way.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
It's the same thing Tokido said, people are going to find out eventually while he admitted that he still loses from hiding things before so he always takes the chance to show it so that people expect it, and then create a central mixup where he fooled someone into thinking he'll do it resulting in the opponent losing.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
I don't,"Hide" tech. I just use it. If my name is out there, I have more of a reason to share it globally. I just know that back then if you could hadoken you was the man. No one had move lists.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
I just saw it like, hiding tech is a western strategy and sharing tech is a eastern strategy. I don't think it ultimately makes much of a difference beyond work ethic. Why should I tell you tech? I worked 4 it + FGs are niche, who's worth telling it to anyway? Git gud is a term that covers that.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
Showing Tech discourages new players from playing the game because if they're prematurely exposed to it whilst just getting on a FG, it will make them switch mains or games. Tell 'em when they're comfy with a FG environment. Is why ppl drop anime if a combo seems impossible or long.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
I like to learn my FGs raw too. I like to know I worked to find all the strategies myself before I move further. If I feel like I have the fundamentals, then there's perhaps 1 or 2 things more. Though, finding out you've played a game, "wrong" crushes you too.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
For me, my pride about VF does, "Prevent" me from doing particular things in Tekken because to me, VF is more mature and teaches what you need in a 3D fG, all I see Tekken teaching is bad habits. So, I'm beyond any Tekken players that's fine w/stiff movement, combo sweeps and tracking linear moves that hit from behind.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
@Hold_Junkie93 It's because you get zero credibility for even hiding it in the first place. You are not getting payed to do it anyway so you "might" as well share it instead of holding a game back from a straight forward portion. You don't own it, the game does. A specific tech is beneficial to improving a character, which in turn, helps you improve.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
The game is providing information for you, so technically the game is sharing tech to you from the get-go. If the information isn't there, no one would exactly know where they would even "truly" begin. Everyone starts from somewhere, that somewhere is what the game gives you for information. If the information isn't there, no one is going to look at it 9 times out of 10 unless they ask someone else.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
Showing tech discourages new players? what? there is a layer to that sort of thing if they want to commit to it. The player knows it's there, the new player has to take steps to get to that point, but the key thing is that information "is there" at all times as a reminder for the new player that he can do this if he/she does this in baby steps before proceeding to that point.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
Pride in the fighting games is nothing but a false sense of bravado. Information is information, if you don't contribute to it, someone else will. It's how all of it works since SFII. That's how most players generally learned. Daigo had to write tech on a piece of paper, like how caveman can you get. It's because he had no choice, this was a time where information was scarce and forums wasn't a big thing.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
There is multiple ways of acquiring hard work instead of jumping into the fray and learn something that took you 4 years that can be learned within a few months, information is a lot easier to take in while still being "hard" in the process. Making yourself a better player is the only thing that should be an example for the amount of years you put in, not tech.
Hold_Junkie93
Hold_Junkie93
I understand what you mean but we can no longer have, "tech" in Jimmy's age of Fighting Games. We get nerfed left and right for sometimes no reason. R.i.P. Chun's instant air legs, Momiji's force techs etc. We don't need to speak for changes to happen or even be someone credible.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
You get nerfed left and right for gameplay reasons. You blame the company for that. Again, that type of logic and bravado is over. That type of nonsense "had" to stop and there's a reason why most of the FGC big ones are pushing it because it only helped yourself, not the game. Being quiet also won't change anything.
DestructionBomb
DestructionBomb
The more information you show, the more you help the game. All the details documented is listed there that people do care for the effort put into the game including tech because helping a character helps the game. If you are hiding it for even tournament reasons that you may not even win, you are not exactly contributing anything.
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
that's a very post 2009 mindset to have on the issue, cause i definitely remember a time where the people who were wining and had the tech were very hush hush about it, which makes sense if youve got access to stuff that gives you the upper hand, why would you let anyone know about how it works? but after the release of Friendly Fighter 4, everybody out here sharing tech, it's just new norm
Camel with 2 thumbs
Camel with 2 thumbs
it's also reason why players like Hungrybox get so much shit, one of the reasons he's infamous is that for years he hasn't shared jigglypuff tech with anyone, he also doesn't play casuals cause he doesn't want ppl to observe him and develop counters to his play, no doubt it's definitely helped him be the best but his secretive nature gets alot of flak in this new age of let's-hold-hand-kumbaya FGC we have now
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