Free Step Dodge

would it be ridiculous to ask for a 14 frame mid?

He has two i14 mids now and an i15.

I was also originally gonna make his i15 jab i11 like the grapplers, but with all the new tools I'm giving him, I think I'm only gonna buff it to i14, though it's PP followups have been buffed from i22 each to i15 and i19, respectively.

Currently, his fastest attack is still P+K at i12.

Yeah, I wouldn't make his jab faster than Bass'. In all honestly, matching his distribution would be nice. Hence the 14 mid.
And unless they nerf Alpha into a dustbin like she deserves, Tengu should get a throw to match her 236236T. IIRC, his strongest throw was 41236T, which didn't even scale up to a lot of the strikers' throws.

41236T was his strongest, yes. It was i12 and did 68 damage, but I've buffed it to 78. Same as Leon's Desert Falcon.

His 2T is still i4 at 68 damage, plus it still has the ceiling variant which is now untechable, obviously and Tengu always had great options from 2T's ceiling, so he's gonna be scary as shit on Home or Temple of the Dragon now.

I wish the fucking floor would stop breaking on those stages. Jacks up my combos a lot. -_-

Finished creating all the moves for his new 6P string. Still need to think about how they stun and how unsafe they are.

6PPP (MMM): Two new mids into 3P.
6PP6P (MMM): Two new mids into 1P.
6PPK (MMM): Two new mids into his new 6K.
6PPP+K (MMH): Two new mids into P+K.
6P2PP) (MLL): One new mid into 2PP.

^^ I like this. Any word on the BT ideas?

I didn't end up giving him anything new from BT because I didn't feel like he really needed it. Though I did keep his new 44P transition to BT in, but changed the input to 4P, since his old 4P attack is gone now.

Ahh alright gotcha. Going to redo the status again later for the support of Tengu.

So I was playing theory fighter in my head with my new Tengu and came up with a 250-ish damage combo on Home that is all guaranteed after landing a Hi Counter 2T. It'd probably be about 210 without Hi Counter.

I also came up with what would likely be a 4 hit CB combo with 1 to 2 guesses.

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The breakable floor can fuck it up though. Still, I think Tengu would be one of the best characters on Home. If he can bait a low hold, he wins if there is a breakable object behind his foe.

This adds to my fear that his 2H+K may now be broken after my buffs though. I strongly feel that it should receive these buffs though and I'm unsure how to settle this.

when you release the full list, I'll give the debacle a looksie and see if I can come up with any solution.

2H+K leads into several strings that all track and all crush, sans the P in the followups that have P. This, combined with the fact that the move forces the opponent to guess between you doing a low, a mid, or a throw after each hit make the move really fucking scary. I can see it being a problem, especially on stages with ceilings.

Holy. You serious? I mean, I know it's a theory and all but just the thought of it makes me tingle in my brain. I am seriously going to enjoy using him on home stage if he shows up.

Quickly brute. We have to support FP! lol! Here I go retweet!!

I had a question before about Tengu....Although it's rather too late to ask. There was a time where I was going to ask someone to get in touch with Wah when he was in Japan for the tournament about Tengu. Like if there was any news, did they drop him, is he coming back etc.

Helena is already this ridiculous.

At forcing guesses, yes, but she doesn't have a tracking low that crushes highs with string mixups that all track and all crush something in addition to making you have to guess which of those mixups is coming, if any. She also doesn't have throws to punish those wrong guesses for 105 or 117 Hi Counter damage, the former of which could lead to a 250 damage combo on Home.

She does have a low sweep that is +on NH, crushes all highs, is neutral on block, crushes many mids, and allows her to continue her pressure with ANY string mix-up she wants on the vast majority of characters due to crush capacity, + on NH and 0 on block frames. Her throws, while not as completely damaging, are resets with either make you BT or launch