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Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
Lol, yeah but that's their problem not mine. If I want any information regarding Tekken or Tekken 7, I'll visit there. I went there when I was learning TTT2, but hated the shit out of that game lol.
Xhominid The Demon Within
Xhominid The Demon Within
True. But I think it's mainly people trying to belittle the game honestly because how dare it slowly get recognition lol. Reminds me of Smash hate.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
Eh, that's possibility. I suspect that they may be butthurt somewhere due to bad online experiences or something or maybe DOA or someone touched them in an inappropriate place when they were a child. Who knows really?
Heikou
Heikou
Tbh, I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone looking for a serious fighting game. The mechanics seem like they fight eachother. It's good that it's 'balanced' in the sense that no matchup is unwinnable, but when you look at the tools top tier characters have vs bottom tier characters
Heikou
Heikou
it makes it pretty apparent that you can only win certain matchups because it's easy to sort of abuse the game's core mechanics.
Alcyone
Alcyone
No shit Sherlock
Rich Nixon
Rich Nixon
I was just talking to a good friend about this today. It's trendy to come on this site and say the game sucks, community is toxic, or post a status about quitting and going to another game (Tekken, SF, SC, Rock Paper Scissors etc.) . Why? If you wanna quit, just do so. Don't try to get attention.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
THANK YOU @Rich Nixon! No one gives a fuck if you're quitting DOA or hate the game. It's a waste of time and energy. If we were interested in something else we'd spend our online time there.

@Heikou You have got to be shitting me. DOA's balance is much better than, say, NRS or 2D fighters where 7-3 & 8-2 MU's exist. The only current fighting game with arguably better balance than DOA5LR is VF5FS.
Xhominid The Demon Within
Xhominid The Demon Within
@Heikou you honestly need some better examples for that man...
I can understand that DOA5 doesn't get patched that often... but the game's overall balance is easily better than most fighting games out now. I think you need to watch some high level play again
Chapstick
Chapstick
When your every status is about, say, Tekken 7, it's like what are you doing here exactly
Brute
Brute
@Heikou As opposed to the better games where you can't use the respective core mechanics to win a difficult match-up?

Hardy harr.
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
Yeah, Tekken trolls can be the worst at times. They should just be derping on TTT2 until Tekken 7 drops next year.
Heikou
Heikou
@Xhominid The Demon Within High level play isn't going to display how well balanced the game is so much as it is how good certain players are at making reads and having good reactions.

Compare Phase4's tools to Christie's. Phase4 is absolute garbage in comparison. The only way she can open people up is making them scared of throws, whereas Christie has
Force_of_Nature
Force_of_Nature
@Heikou Our point is that "lower tier" characters exist in every fighting game. The difference between Christie and Phase-4 is no different than the difference between Viola & Zwei in SCV. Don't get me started on shit like Sagat vs. Chun Li in Super Turbo or some of UNIEL's MU's.
Heikou
Heikou
A lot of solid mixup and block pressure. Christie also has a lot of good setups to maintain momentum after finding some chink or another in the opponent's defense. On top of that, she also has a defensive advantage in her special sidestep, and a move which pulls her hurtbox back, then gives a SDS on NH if the opponent whiffs an attack.
Heikou
Heikou
It's more balanced because the system doesn't allow 8-2 matchups, not because all characters are well thought out or have comparable tools.
Brute
Brute
"It's more balanced because the system doesn't allow 8-2 matchups,"

And why is that a bad thing? Sounds like a 1/2 the problem is remedied in DOA, whereas in other fighting games they've got two faults (character imbalance and a core system that doesn't allow for "balance").
Xhominid The Demon Within
Xhominid The Demon Within
@Heikou I'm still not getting what you are saying and reading it over...you are making even less sense honestly...
The only thing that can make your point truth is how fast characters benefit more in DOA than in other games...but again, that's not really something proving your point since other games on similar mechanics
Heikou
Heikou
It's not, the bad thing is that unbreakable throws are 7F, if you SE, there's a good chance you'll be left crouching and get whacked for it, characters have a ridiculous number of strings, and WU kicks have a dumb amount of invuln frames.

VF manages to be pretty damn balanced without that.
Heikou
Heikou
I'm not saying the game isn't fun, or anything like that, I'm just saying I don't think it's good competitively.
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