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  1. Tempest

    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    Plenty of people at FR knew how Kokoro worked, Sweet Revenge just happened to not be one of those people.
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    If you don't feel like I've presented any valid arguments, then I honestly don't know what to say. Essentially I believe that Phase 4 has enough damage for a basic nitaku situation between strike and throw to be sufficient for her to win rounds, with difficulty against a lot of the cast. Her...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    Going back and forth isn't really what I'd call this. We both seem to be a completely different wavelength. At any rate I'm interested to see what your match-up chart looks like for Phase 4 considering you've put her on the bottom.
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    The triangle system has a pretty large impact on the neutral game, and DOA has some very different design decisions compared to other fighting games that also affect it's neutral. Phase has serviceable enough neutral tools to let her get a stun game in, it's harder for her than other...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    There's a lot of things in that post I'll respond to later but for now I'll say that what I meant there is that Alpha cannot threaten her opponent with damage in stun unlike the rest of the cast, which is huge. As for the neutral game, I have never said or implied that the triangle system...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    1P is not a good tool, if a Phase player is using it a lot they probably haven't spent much time in the lab doing anything except combo practice. Even on counter you can only use the mid punch followup, making it pointless outside of stun. I'm not saying having a poor neutral game doesn't...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    I really don't, you're a better player than me, fighting you won't change my mind when I'm not currently capable of beating you with any character. I know my character, I'm perfectly aware anything beyond those pokes you listed (plus 3k, minus 5k) require a commitment from a hard read. Phase...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    Hajin has a much more educated opinion, and I am of course extremely bias, but I don't feel like I'm using the worst character in the game. Though I think that's just the nature of this game. The top tier characters are undoubtedly better, but the situation never becomes as dire as it is in...
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    Tekken

    Only if you count mobile gaming and "games" like farmville on social sites.
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    DOA5U Ayane Match-Ups Discussion

    Does DOA have any other notable OS situations?
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    DOA5U Ayane Match-Ups Discussion

    So inputting a strike and the throw button (like 2K+T) will give you the throw break if the strike doesn't come out? If you get hit will it be hi counter or regular counter?
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    DOA5U Ayane Match-Ups Discussion

    You can OS neutral throw break?
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    Doa PC doesn't need lobbies, it's so dead that I can play anyone on my friends list so long as...

    Doa PC doesn't need lobbies, it's so dead that I can play anyone on my friends list so long as we search for a game at the same time.
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    Community Does the DOA community agree on anything?

    I talked with him at FR, like me he believes that Phase doesn't need to revolve her game play around critical burst, as you can get a lot of damage with this character from a stun launch. Fair enough, I just went along with the discussion because Phase was mentioned in the op. I guess on...
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    Community Does the DOA community agree on anything?

    Fuzzy guarding tenfu would be news to me though I haven't really put much time into figuring out more options against that move since you can sidestep it. Yes Phase 4 has a very weird neutral due to a lack of safe buttons, but saying she struggles really hard is kind of over-selling it. She...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    This is one of the things that makes the Tier list kind of hard to gauge IMO. Since tournament standard is random stage, how much are we supposed to take outliers like Gen-Fu on Ends of the Earth, Leon and Hayabusa on Home etc. into account compared to their regular performance on a more neutral...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    Oh I'm very aware, I'm just saying that her only string mid/low mixup is coming off of 1p and to be honest it just isn't as scary as what other characters are capable of. Up close you just need to watch for that one move, whereas against characters like Kasumi you need to be constantly paying...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    When I think of Momiji I don't really think of a low game. I don't agree with her tier placement though, her neutral game is very strong and I don't really see how Hayate is beating her in that area beyond his superior crushes. Hayate is a solid character but he doesn't belong in top 5 with Gen...
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    DOA5U The Official Tier List with Discussion Thread

    Lots of oki and environment tech they probably don't use.
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    When do you think DOA6 will be released and what do you want to see in it

    Literally the only problem with stagger escaping is that sometimes it'll make you crouch if you keep doing the input after you've already left stun, and that's still preventable. If the mechanics are giving you trouble you should ask around and see what advice other players can give you instead...
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