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And I don't love them either. At the end of it all DOA is in whatever position it's in, and a DOAX poll just isn't much of a convincing argument to say they're good characters, especially with comparing them to Lucky Chloe who had no platform at all to excel. But that's my 2 cents.

Put Lucky Chloe, Alisa, etc in a DOA joint and Honoka and Marie in Tekken and we'd be having a completely different convo. At the end of the day, considering their story, their appearances in other titles, etc, they still don't hold up to Chun Li, Mai, heck even Kasumi for that matter and until...

And again, to answer that point: That Tekken doesn't prioritize those kinds of characters. But it still doesn't hold up today when you hop on the fighting game and barely see Honoka's and Marie rose's but see 20 Kasumi's and 12 Ayane's and such. Still all in all, yeah Lucky Chloe never got...

Then yeah, they're not great characters. If I hop on google type most popular fighting game characters and still only see Kasumi, Ayane, and even Tina at some lists, they're not great characters. By that point why not talk about Eliza then also. Her follow base is huge but the player base is...

job promoting them as characters vs Marie and Honoka. And where am I ignoring? I literally said piece by piece the argument. And even if, I don't prioritize DOAX series. I go by what I see in the fighting games respectively because that's the main aspect of each of these games. If the fighting...

Rebecca Black's Friday is a notorious example of that. If there was a stronger case, it be them versus Alisa because yeah, Alisa is another character that gets mixed reviews, is a main character, and has more foundation and still doesn't get much footing in Tekken. Which leads to my point, what...

Compared to Lucky Chloe, where I highly doubt, she'll be in the main game. But this was my argument to begin with. The problem with this argument comes from the aspect of them being good characters because they're more successful than Lucky Chloe, when there's more foundation for them to go by...

characters in that story at least the DOA portion. Then you have Senran Kagura (Tbh I don't know much about it) but we'll assume it was well for them there as well). Then DOA 6 comes 2019, Marie and Honoka are definitive main characters and even if there was DOA 7, you'd be hard pressed to say...

She comes out, you give her lore w/ Ayane (A main character) and Raidou (A main villain), and heavily pair her w/ Marie Rose, who already has a strong foundation. Still mixed reception but you roll w/ it. DOAX3 comes out, well that criticism goes out the window. Warriors all star comes out, give...

Ok lets see Marie: Trailer comes out around DOA5:U promotion, 2013-14. Her receptions about positive, though there's some criticism. She appears. You see interaction w/ Helena, another pretty popular character and you get a foundation started. Honoka: trailer comes out DOA5:LR time 2015'ish...

No movies, no merch, and has no promotion based off her. Only JeonDDing plays her, though he even plays Eddy more than LC at this point, and after that Tekken gets dominated by Geese, Akuma, Fahk, Leroy, etc...

Ok so lets dive into Lucky Chloe, her trailer comes out like in 2016, she's already hated by much of the playerbase, you only have arcade mode to go by or offline tourneys. May 2017, Tekken 7 comes out on consoles and she only gets one character episode, which many despise to this day, even Eddy...

Then you hop into Honoka, you give her lore w/ Ayane and Raidou, make her into some "I have a secret" character, brand her w/ Marie Rose as well and then give them appearances in DOAX3, Warriors All Stars, etc and you give them solid footing to go by.

2014-15, then really catapulted when she was branded together w/ Honoka and from there appeared in DOAX3, Senran Kagura, and Warriors All Stars and once you tie in her lore w/ Helena, you have solid footing and foundation for Marie Rose, along w/ SonicFox playing her.

2015-2016.

Where does this tie to Lucky Chloe though? Cause that's my main question and where I'm really having the debate. If anything, I'd say Alisa would be a stronger argument in an overall female FG character argument because at least Alisa was catapulted to the main cast and became popular around T6...

Marie a character that got popular around DOA5:U time and then again catapults around DOAX and Warriors all star.

Now, hopefully lets see if you answer my question: how does Lucky Chloe get momentum w/ no game features, and only one trailer before Tekken 7 and no lore to go by except "She's a dancer"?

Like the minute they became featured in games like Warrior's all star and DOAX series. You can even argue for a fact during the time SonicFox started using Marie competitively...

Marie: 2013, Nyo: 2014, Honoka 2015, Lucky Chloe 2017, DOAX3: 2016, Warrior's all star: 2017, DOA 6: 2019. Like look at all the time you have to invest in Marie and Honoka before DOA 6 vs Lucky Chloe who came in like 2016-17 and Tekken comes out straight after...