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So let's keep it the same even though no one likes it or let's change it a "LITTLE" bit and see what happens?

How do you do that!?!?!

Tekken is more than just juggles and you speaking about Tekken is meaningless because you have 0 knowledge of the game. Even my knowledge is highly limited of the game but after playing it and learning some of it from great players the juggle system is your reward for playing good. Your reward...

You are arguing something that is so dumb I'm not truly sure why I'm responding. . . People want FINALITY with their offense. Your argument is basically "If I make a bad call I should have two or three chances to break free and actually do more damage than the attacker". Games are about out...

So because you refuse to even begin to understand what is being debated I'll just say I disagree with you. I suggest you let it go as well. We should all just drop it. We have put in our input and it's clear we have those who want to change the system and those who want to keep it near the...

Well the problem is you always can out guess your opponent so it seems like the attacker has more options than he truly has. This is where the debate is stuck at because some people don't understand (or seem to not understand) what is happening when you are playing DoA. No one wants to be on...

Yes I have played all versions of DoA. I didn't get to play 2/3 competitively because I wasn't even playing games at that time. However I did play them against good players, not baddies I found in some random area and did well in the game. DoA4 still has a core mechanic and it's the same as...

The point I'm making is that holds are always there and they are not easy to punish. They are "easier" now yes but that's dependent on what move you use. The problem is with guessing you have to guess so many extra times and GIVE the defender opportunities to get out of your offense. In DoA5...

Lol it's like talking to walls. I mean DoA is fun and we all love it or we wouldn't be having this conversation. Fact is holds do too much and are available at ALL times. Yes they have added a "few" other things for more damage (which I like) but at the same time holds still are available...

Your examples assume the person don't know the strings or they have variations. Dude it's probably best no one argues with you further. While I do agree that they nerfed hold damage pretty hard the point is it is an abusable move with small backlash. Obviously some scrub mashing holds will...

You honestly are missing the entire point of what people are trying to change. I mean if people showed up in droves for the way the system was/is then we wouldn't be having this conversation. However that's not the issue so I (as well as other players) are trying to find a way that will make...

Well I think the stun that is a CH stun should have a visual effect. Like a stun that makes you look dizzied or the crumple stun could be the indicator. It's something that I think would work well with the game since they want to give you so much counter damage for landing counters. Having some...

I see Marvel being used quite a bit in terms of the "Watch cause you messed up" thing. You are forgetting why you have to sit and watch. . .you messed up. No matter what happened in what situation you had the same opportunity to force a mistake but he forced you first. Once you mess up it's HIS...

Not sure if anyone took the time to figure it out or not but you can't hold after Ayane does her old back throw. You get a free combo from it now.

Yes I agree with that too. Just adding to it I suppose lol

Well the problem with DoA is it is already deemed as non-worthy which I think is what Dr.Dogg is referring to. People will play it but it will die out fast if they aren't feeling it. The game looks amazing but many people will be put off by the way the counters are. I personally think just by...

As it stands right now PB's are basically whiff punishment, limbo stun finishers, and counter bait. Even with limbo stuns it's more of a counter bait technique cause you will prob have to extend the stun first. The thing is out side of strong whiff punishment or fishing for a counter high...

Super slow lows are blocked 98% of the time. The only time they aren't is because the person was under such great pressure that they lose their reaction time some. Charging attacks are much different considering they have a very distinct visual (and even audio) showing that it is being used...

Yea we will find out soon enough. Here's the good: -Toned down counters -Added SS (though it is weak) -Small frame advantage -Wake up kicks toned down There is probably some other stuff but I can't think of it right now lol. With that being said though they are trying it's still not pushing...

Ok we all know the demo is not a tournament ready game. We have stated this DrDogg in the other thread but you seem to think by people saying it's a step in the right direction that it is tournament ready. That's not the case at all we are all there with you though everyone has different...