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  1. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    Welcome to the pain in the ass that is Christie. I don't believe anyone can see her cancel into JAK and still beat her out with an attack. Humans just can't react that fast. Best bet on block when it comes to her 6P string is to counter the second mid punch. It's hard to do but it is the only...
  2. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    Good luck? Wait, is Summer Jam a tournament? I'm so clueless, knock it outta the park bro!
  3. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    214P+K stuffs 6PP > JAK P. Just tried it myself. The timing isn't hardcore easy but as long as you know when the block stun ends from 6PP it does work.
  4. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    Only a certain amount of frames can be staggered so find out their frames without staggering and I'm sure we can work it out.
  5. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    You don't need a tracking move to beat out her in-string JAK cancels. If she does say 6PP > JAK > 2K or P I use Helena's 33P which doesn't track and it works just fine. The idea is to catch her at the end of the side step and the start up of the attack, not hit her out of the sidestep. It takes...
  6. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    If sparring isn't available you can still use the attack info box on normal offline versus. Perhaps you could check frames that way?
  7. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    If you don't have any initial attack tracking moves that are not high's dealing with Christie's JAK in neutral is a nightmare. But you don't need a tracking moves to deal with her in-string JAK's. Why are i18 and i19 moves bad for dealing with JAK? Helena's fastest out of neutral is i17 (1P)...
  8. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    Like Hajin said seeing if 33P4P works as a PFT is pretty important, if not does BT 4PK or 66K work? Are her 3in1's still -4 on block? Are her old sit down stuns still +15 on fastest SE or are they viable now? Is her BT 7P still +13 guaranteeing nothing? Did they finally give her an i10 jab...
  9. Omegan Eckhart

    Top 10 Helena's worst moves

    A sit down stun that guarantees nothing at all, what a piss take.
  10. Omegan Eckhart

    First DOA5U replay

    It's not from TN, I think it is from someone who got an early copy. Interesting to see the changes to force tech though. Edit: I wonder if they have sorted out the replay system. It currently takes forever to choose a replay and then even longer to upload it. It would be great if it wasn't as...
  11. Omegan Eckhart

    DOA5U(PS3®) HAYABUSA vs AYANE 2013-08-02

    In all fairness it's not like TN released it.
  12. Omegan Eckhart

    Increase gravity in tag mode?

    Remove the infinite's then it's fine. Watching two characters doing the same attacks till the opponents hits the wall is boring.
  13. Omegan Eckhart

    DOA5U(PS3®) HAYABUSA vs AYANE 2013-08-02

    The AI is very derpy at times. Ayane gets hit by 2P twice and isn't even pressing anything then stands there and gets caught by 8F+P. A scrub would be doing something. Plus no one moved at start of the match, humans press buttons.
  14. Omegan Eckhart

    DOA5U(PS3®) HAYABUSA vs AYANE 2013-08-02

    I'm not even sure that's people playing, it looks like two AI bots to me.
  15. Omegan Eckhart

    Bad character?

    You don't need to create an entire thread every time you have a question dude. It just clogs up the forum with unnecessary threads and makes it harder to find information. To answer your question, those views were expressed before her blender/vortex technology was made public, which changed...
  16. Omegan Eckhart

    Vote for Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate at The Fall Classic!

    Shame TN hasn't told us anything much about the game, hard to vote for something I don't know shit about.
  17. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    DOA4 Pro's: Guaranteed Force Tech's At least +30 from Force Tech's SWAG Con's: Damage sacrifice Very tough to memorize every combo for each character/weight class/launcher/hit state DOA5 Pro's Easy to do Minimal damage sacrifice Con's: Force Tech's not guaranteed Only +4 from PFT NO SWAG...
  18. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    Nothing was guaranteed that's true but Helena had enough frame advantage back then that she could do anything she wanted whereas now if the opponent mashes on 6P they can beat out most of her options if she doesn't go for her fastest pokes. In DOA4 I think I counted about 40 something...
  19. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena in DOA5U

    Her BKO force tech was way better than her PFT is. The frame advantage from that was absolutely mental. I don't want that to return, I honestly want all her brain dead tech removed and replaced with strong but highly situational tools that only good players can use. I miss the old days when...
  20. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena combo thread

    http://www.freestepdodge.com/threads/helena-breakdown.1483/
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