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At least with astaroth you can break his throws.

Happy to be recognized. Haven't gone over to that forum in a while though.

You dont need to do that, 236p 6kp is the better followup.

DJ P also groundbounces on grounded hit, so there's that too.

The throw actually still hits because of the blockstun created, no time to sidestep.

Except for Ryu.

I'll be honest, I like the jibble, but it's not the main reason I play the game of course.

Lol true, that's what the izuna is for.

And watch out for that 666p Martian, it's an excellent hayabusa move now.

For that new head over heels stun, is there a point where you can forch tech them during it, but before they can fall recover?

I was watching a stream earlier where a player used 666p, and 3 p+k was used to forch tech afterwards, it seemed that if he used it early it launched them a little bit but when he hit them a little late it just forch teched them, and he did have it set for them to tech roll.

From what I've seen, you can forch tech during the later part of a bound, is this true?

Sarah got hit too huh?

Ryu is a lot better, I'm pretty happy so far.

Shoho does work in a combo, after a PL, and it supposedly works on all weight classes. If 6kp groundbounces every time now, it would seem to me to be great as an alternative launcher. I can see the 3 p+k teleport for being very useful when there are dangerzones or a cliff behind you. You could...

This is great because it does more damage than a PB even with a wall, and is low execution. I can't think of a reason to use PB anymore unless you can hit a special danger zone or somethin.

WR 4k- airthrow works after 9k bound, so not bad.

Why would people who play the game drop it just cause new consoles come out? There's no doa on the next gen so that makes no sense.

Ryu makes great use of the new bounds.