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1k does trip stun. I don't agree with those character changes to Lisa. However, pp as a natural combo on counter hit or if you get their back....

They tightened it on purpose and throw punishing is nothing new. If anything it makes throw punishing harder. You're right with the 33/236 buffers being mixed up... That issue sucks. You can also use free cancel to make a psudeo combo. Eg, Tina has ppk with only a follow up. With free cancel...

Pretend to use strings.

Brad Wong as well.

People either extend stuns with mids or jabs. Some characters have a good piss off move E.G Lisa's 4k+f. You may have one as well. Use it if they are poking you about but you manage to block something.

updated. Has anyone found a way to punish whiffed wake up kicks?

I've had a good go at pretty much every character but Brad Wong is the only one that holds my interest. I get nothing but joy playing him, unless I'm getting raped also. He feels fun to play. The things on Brad ain't good. Frame data is always handy though. Check out my note pad for some real...

Pretty much. Throw in a Deja vu and an OH every so often...

I think she'd only have problems with others who are strong at the mid-long distance game. I'm thinking along the lines of Zack, and Ayane. I'd on crushes, throws, sidesteps and counters close up and I don't see how that would change just because a character is fast with good strings, or has a...

Anyone know which attacks won the make your move competition?

I like how everyone has their own method to it.

Used it today once or twice during offline games. Works well on the snow stage and home.

Okay so the key points to land her 1pk 7k6 5p+h juggle on light characters is to hit the 1pk asap and to hit 5p+h as she's stepping, just at the range (the window is small, but not tight).

I like not to use it so people don't counter it on reaction when I'm going for a CB.

Are there others out there that think people should just learn how to play with the toys/tools they got instead of (complaining or) consistently requesting a change what would suit them? Does this happen with other fighting game forum?

Pretty dead in here. Let's show him some love. I ask you, Why did you choose him originally and why did you stick with him? What is there to like about him?

p+k has dodgy hit box. Often whiffs if they are off axis, even more so if they are ducking and even more so if they are on a slope.

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6pp, 3pp/6ppp and 6kk don't track but you can time it to hit people during the recovery of the side step and the initiation frames from the side step attacks. So what I'm saying is spam 6ppp.

Agreed, Lisa is pretty buff as it is. Carrera into 1p or 1k is handy. Mad range, tracks, crushes, stuns and/or sets you up for other things. Aim for just at whiffing range to make it pseudo safe. If they do (almost) anything before the active frames they'll extend the hitbox and get hit. If they...