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Interesting that everyone seems to want that to be unsafe. It'll be very interesting to see what the frames on 4K end up being. Maybe you'll all be happy, but I'll shoot myself in the foot if it's -15 again. I can't even fathom how a move like that can be that unsafe. I just don't want this to...

Fairly unreliable. It can catch her sometimes but it's a 50/50 most of the time as she might beat you out and there's the chance she'll cancel it twice, evading the 2nd punch. It's still probably his best way of dealing with it though. 214P+K and 46P+K tracking mids are both 18 and 19 frames...

Fair enough, going through the motions and what you remember of how he played (particularly in 4 which is what he's most likely based off of in 5U) you'll probably get your own idea of what should be safe/unsafe/advantage etc. Then you can look at his atrocious frame data from 4 and HOPE most of...

DOA5U at summer jam. Looks like we're counting on the community for new info on 5U. Sounds good. We should get an influx sometime after the 17th.

I was a casual as well, still am for the most part. But DOA5 and it's frame data training really made it easy for me to learn safety, what makes things tick and a lot of other stuff. I'm kinda just really getting into it all. But honestly, despite the bull of online and the power of the hold...

I was already wishing I could go to summer jam, now I'm REALLY disappointed that I can't go.

Holy cr-... SOMEONE PLEASE COVER EIN AND HAYATE. And take a video camera too! It's about time we see someone competent play this game! Please share what you find out about Akira ;_;

I was referring to her throws for normal sidestepping opponents. As far as JAK goes? JAK screws everyone over. I can't help you there.

4K is only a launcher on counter hit though, and the damage isn't spectacular to boot. Plenty of characters have counter hit launchers with reasonable damage combo followups. On normal hit it just causes a hard knockdown, you could force tech in 4 but in 5U you might even have to guess wakeup...

I don't think we'll agree on this, a poke like that being unsafe just doesn't sit right with me at all. The fact that it's been -15 since DOA3 is just ridiculous to me. As for Rig, weather or not you care about him the fact is he has the tool you say Ein shouldn't have, and arguably a better...

Ok.. can't argue there. But unlike Akira, you have strings where if they SS the first or 2nd hit, they'll be hit by the 2nd or 3rd. Even Christie applies there. You also have throws built into some of your strings to catch steppers as well. Akira on the other hand is largely a single strike...

I had a feeling the game would be leaked but not a month before release. I do wish whoever did this video would have at least used one of the new characters. I guess they could have gotten in trouble?

This is true but a lot of her evasiveness can be clenched by a nice tracking mid. Her Jakeio evades non tracking mids and crushes tracking highs. Hayate and Hayabusa for example can snuff her with a well placed 6PK/4P (Hayate) or 4P (Busa). Akira on the other hand's tracking mids are too slow...

Yeah you're right I accidently looked at the wrong move. But yeah 4K is actually VERY fast but considering Rig gets a 12 frame Mid kick which also launches on counter hit and gets him a juggle I don't see this being terribly broken, especially considering Rig can make his safe. I stand by it...

You should be so lucky, Akira's fastest tracking mid is 18 frames (214P+K). One of the five tracking moves he has, God the Christie matchup is a nightmare with him.

Ugh. Certain people in this game...

Dunno how you got it but it's better than nothing even if I saw basically nothing new.