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-people are afraid of having solid defense. Defense is a freaking skill guys and take more practice than pressing back and hold. Defense is a myraid of techniques that you the player need to be aware of...ie Blocking. free stepping(positioning). side stepping. spacing/whiff punishment. crushes...

Ooops! Like really. This shit is tiring. These people dont even play at mid level play and want to dictate what happens at hlp. many want their opinions heard when they are not deserving of it.

And this makes me cry inside because all of the attention the game was given and all that valuable input went to waste.

Exactly, and i refuse to do anyones research for them.

That video was sexy. I see no problem with it. Stuff like that make you pay attention to your surroundings, your positioning, and having good defence. This is what Doa is all about!

-Western players have proven to be far better players in doa than the japanese. Instead of bringing up other games, you need to do your research on the doa tournament scene, and base the discussion around those facts. -This is why it is very important you do your research before you start...

-Lmao through heaven and earth. You know what hit me, the way the japanese players play, they will never touch on the things that we want in the game. so why are they being catered to? The things they want are the exact same thing casual players want. And like you said, they wont know the...

You are right, and technically this is a continuation of the older model. In both doa2 and 3, the launch height increased dependant on the hit status. It just wasnt so obvious due to the stun game. Infact other aspects of the game was based on hit status but were also removed in doa4/5.

Exactly. The core of the game(doa4), is fucked up. There is no wonder both doa2 and doa3 were far better because of the core engine(doa2) being solid and only needing slight tweaks.

-Omg I love this video! I wasnt happy till i seen this right here. This is how doa5 should be. I think we should just stop talking and post nothing but vids of what we mean.

Sigh, good things being removed....what a shame.

-And this is why I am not playing Doa5. The game is not fun, and I feel we were lied to if you ask me. We put all this hype in the game...especially after the E3 build. Was told the game was going to be for competitve players, and we get another Doa4. It makes absolutely no sense to cater to the...

Looks like doa3.....sigh. Can we get some more stages please lol.

You know what, I rather have Doa4 style SE, than holds in stun. Atleast you can use proper counter setups with that. If anything, only allow critical holds in heavy stuns....that is the only time you are put in a true critical state.

To an extent, yes. But the underlying issue is still the universal need to play the stun game, which limit many character specific meta games...aka individuality. Once this issue is fixed, you will see a far greater use towards character specific traits and techniques.

Funny that you say that. There were a couple of stages I did love in both doa2 and doa3. Tn should just bring those stages back lol.

My first doa experience was with the sega saturn version. read many good things about the game, and it was modeled after vf2, couldnt beat that.

The stages in doa2-3 were all beautiful. I must say that even the "ugly" stages look better than the good ones in Doa5. Also, Doa4 had ugly ass stages too...thats when the down fall began.

The stun system....let me correct that, the high emphasis on the stun system defeat the purpose of having character individuality. Less stuns + more frame advantage + attacks that knock down/back = a use for character individuality.

I like the system changes, and Tina getting a side step throw. However, this is not enough. If they made atleast jabs guranteed after a stun, that would be a major improvement. Or simply reduce the amount of stunning attacks.