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Cool, but glitches should be removed from the game not kept because it makes a few players win easier.This has little to do with depth or learning the game, glitches take away from that or force players to play around them.

Alrighty well I can assure you that you're off with your timing. Since P comes out faster and than 236p.

Jann Lee isn't breaking the rules of the game when he does what he does. When your character twitches like they have down syndrome and glides off screen that would make any Marvel character jealous, it not only looks stupid and gltiched, it changes the entire rule set in the game. Some people...

Who is it good for? Because I can assure you no one smiling and going, "Good job Team Ninja" when you're fighting a character that's cheating the ground game and exploiting the movement system in general.

pp2kp and pp2kk work better off of smaller heights.

You think higher of them than me. but when they remove her best strings for stupid reasons I just can't lol

Nah they went out of their way to remove all her DOA4 force techs, why go and make it better? I'd love to think they were doing the smart thing and intentionally gave her this tech, but I highly doubt it in this glitch ridden game. I'd rather they nerf her force tech game and make her a solid...

We'll call it tech then. They obviously had no intention of making Helena good. Or a character completely ignore the ground game.

Some of them, yes.

Helena has an 11 frame mid that crushes highs out of bokuho. Breaking her out of bokuho on block can be difficult if you aren't on point with your punishment and 2P is probably your safest bet.

Lets turn it into brawl and character can trip into sitdown stun, lol.

The ground glitch gives her an advantage in the guesisng game non-stop.

Feels like we're running around in circles. Hopefully Team Ninja does the right thing and removes it or nerf the 5 characters properly for keeping it.

What's the difference in this game?

Tier lists are worthless in a game where you can just mash out of a combo.

They way they animate, the fact that they are blocking and moving, and the fact that they can cover an entire arena in the blink of an eye.Why does the character with a built in backdash not have this tool?

Right, but this goes beyond the scope of the game and how it was designed. Helena's shouldn't have the untechable nosense though. I say this as a Helena user. When you design a game you should design it to make logical sense. It's pretty obvious this is just a glitch with the newer animations...

It did with the Gambit glitch in MVC2, why was getting a health lead and warping away not allowed when infinites, unblockables, overpowered characters, etc. . . were? The logic isn't that much different with this backdash glitch. It's all playing to win in the end.

You're dancing around the statement.

No, but can you honestly tell me that it isn't a glitch that gives character advantages they shouldn't have?