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When I asked DrDogg about :3::P+K: all he had to say was "broken". Hopefully he was kidding, Busa and Helena's BS crushes got nerfed so hopefully Gen Fu isn't exempt.

You'd think Helena would have two, one for BKO and one for everything else, guess not.

Really? I'll take your word on that.

Wait l know they were nerfed from their original state but have they been nerfed again since?

You won't see CB's too much. Take Helena for example, she needs to land about 5 hits whilst you are in stun then hit you with her CB attack which is a mid punch, so if you are paying attention you can get ready to counter my CB attack and avoid being put in an unholdable situation. But you...

Okay every character has only one CB attack so as soon as the opponent knows the hit level of that attack going for a CB is going to be a huge gamble in itself. What long chain combo to follow up with? You get one free hit, assuming the person who just landed a CB isn't dumb that will be a...

You mean it still goes under everything?

His stupid good crush. The mid punch that can be followed by another mid punch.

Can you offer any details on him? The only nerf I can imagine he got was to his :3::P+K:.

@ DrDogg Have you played Gen Fu yet? Just curious if he has been toned down or not.

I'm with this, her hair looks wonky and doesn't flow very well. It's just too tough to animate that much hair when it's down. Looks like SC hair, all stuck in one lump. I'll take hair up. It's nice to see professional gamers trying the game, Fuudo is playing and I saw Justin Wong expressing...

No they didn't change the animation at all. It was the hit box data that made it crush mid attacks. Even though she ducks that low her hurt box will be much higher than she is.

Helena didn't land any CB's or sit down stuns, she didn't do a single thing in that match that she can't do in DOA4. Don't forget that the Lisa player could have thrown the crap outta that Helena player seeing as everything she was doing was unsafe too. Nice to see new footage though.

Helena vs Lisa in bikini's

She has a few 3in1's. @DrDogg When you land CB with 7P is there time to enter BKO and do 66P for the launch? Alternatively is there a better launch to use after landing CB?

Are a lot of SS attacks lows? Also can she transition into BKO from it? I know she could remain in BKO after it in DOA4.

Updated OP.

I'm just glad she gets something guaranteed. A sidestepping low that gives a nice stun? Hmm that is pretty nice.

Bummer, most of the new music sounds like a deflating fart balloon. I prefer upbeat and energetic music in fighting games. Some of the new music is nice though.

Did they keep all or at least most of DOA4's music to go along with the new music? It'd be a shame if I never heard Solitary Desperation again.