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The nerfs of 6P+K and 4 K being the weak version of DOAD plus 46K only giving plus 1 is not cool at all... Very important: How are the frames of 3P on NH and is Ein´s 236p as good as Hitomis or as "meh" as Hayates? And how fast is 8P? And does any of his important moves track? What is his...

Yep, so far nothing about the DOAU5 netcode...

Theses "official ratings" are also present in SoulCaliburV and it just shows how clueless the developer is sometimes when it comes to the balancing of the characters. I will never! trust this.

To be honest i am not dissapointed... I like Ein for what he always was as a fighter. Changing him could make him completely uninteresting for me. It´s just that his moves should be safer in general and he needs moves that have decent tracking in DOA5 now.

OK from what i have seen you can charge 9P now and both 1K and 4K do crush Ayanes wake up kicks and both still guarantee combos(NH 1k, 3P, 6kk) and (CH4K, 3P, 6kk). Wonder how safe!? 1K is. 6P+K and 4K seem to be as unsafe as ever... 6P+K seems even unsafer... lol? And BTW, can anyone confirm...

For me, DOA4 Ein was a vast improvement over DOA2 Ein. Guard brakes, sweep, 6P+K doing a stun on NH etc. I don´t want DOA2 Ein back... DOA4 Ein plus 2-3 new useful moves and a little safer... That´s it.

Nice to see that the first impressions are so positiv.. Leon deserves that!

After watching some fights from summer jam, I have to say that Ein has really nothing new so far. His sweep does no real stun on NH just like Hayates. 4K seems as unsafe as ever, combos strings are the same and his sidestep P is the same as Hitomis. etc, etc. Not saying I don´t like this at...

But the range of 3P is short and on NH it doesn´t give you anything special.

Sounds interesting.. I´ll try to think about some things which should be improved imo.

I agree with you... I tried to get a feeling for DOA5 Hayate early in this game but this Hayate should never be compared with his older older versions(DOA3/DOA4). Let´s hope Ein won´t face the same fate.

Yeah i agree with you that it is a bit wiered to see Ein having his OH back. But maybe he just needs everything he can get to be competitive in DOA5U.

Because he lacks new stuff(again) and was never a character that had specific advantages when it came to throws except damage?

I hope his OH is 66T and not 236T in DOA5U. Never liked the 236 input for a OH in DOA4.

I saw that a few weeks ago in a DOA2U Ein video on youtube. Anyway, thanks for checking out some Ein stuff CyberEvil!

But 4K is no poke. It´s more of a launcher than everything else. And fast launcher being safe can always cause problems when it comes to balancing. And who knows, maybe Rigs 12i launcher is nerfed in DOA5U..? The problem is that even if 6P+K hit from a far distance, the opponent could close...

To make 4K safe wouldn´t be terrible broken, but it´s imo not right... It should be semi unsafe... Like -9 plus decent pushback or something like that. And about Rig... Don´t care about him but it´s correct that he has maybe an even better launcher. The pushback of 6P+K in DOA4 was never even...

@Zeo 4k slow and a high crush? It´s really fast(13i) and has no TC frames. It´s the number one move in Ein´s arsenal which hepled him to be competitive without! playing the "stun-game" like others had to and one of the best launches in DOA history imo. To make it safe would be... too much...

I like Ein´s DOA4 Karate Outfit the most, but his Original C1 outfit is cool too.

I don´t think that DOU5 will get a balance patch in the near future... It is something like a "FINAL-VERSION". And a low tier Ein like in DOA3 is not what I want.. Mid-tier would be really satisfying imo. And yeah Hayate is better now but I still don´t like him/his stile.