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Further testing has shown me that I was wrong in assuming it was specific to tech rolling - as Eliot is able to produce unholdable attacks from force teching the opponent, ala doa4. An example would be force teching a opponent close to the wall with 2P+K and then using 1K (might be 2K, not...

So I had been messing around with different kind of untechable setups when I stumbled across this. It seems that when you decide to tech roll from a ground hit (not to be mistaken as the force tech game of doa4) you are very briefly put into a situation were you can't hold the next attack. The...

Zack buffed.

Of all the stages they could have used.

Yeah it definitely sucks, but it's just the way these games work for some reason. And it isn't just Brad, every character losses their guaranteed setups if they accidently HCB their opponent.

:) Another very sneaky way to beat it would to let yourself get HCB by the 2P+K so that you can hold what would have otherwise been a guaranteed :K:.

By "super secret method" you're referring to simply backdashing away, right?

Good games to Kronin, Night, Emperor cow, Mes5y, and anyone else I've played in the last week.

Is it just me or do CB set-ups at the wall only work in training mode? In an actual match the CB move knocks the opponent into the wall instead.

Cool, the only costume dlc I've cared about all come together in one batch. Great!

If you go off axis when Brad goes into handstand he'll get locked into the stance, unable to attack, throw or h-cancel out. He's has to wait for the animation to end before he becomes usable again. To test it out have the computer hold his BT :6::K::6::K::8:. The second kick is unholdable, so...

Not unholdable stuns, but rather moves that become unholdable after force teching an opponent. I'm curious as to why they were removed as well - they were the one aspect of doa4 I enjoyed.

My god, this thread has been a real eye opener.

When was Zack's 6pk unholdable? Doa3?

It is.

Seen this over on neogaf but there was a lot of confusion over whether this was good or not. Is it?

I had no idea so many people cared about team battle. Had it not been pointed out I don't think I would have noticed it was missing in DOA5.

That was pretty great. Beside losing out I think Gamerbee impressed me most. He definitely seemed to be the most knowledgeable about the game and his character. He's mastered that new backdash already.

The fact that Gamerbee and Fuudo are even playing DOA is crazy.

#UPDATED ON 19/12/12 - rearranged a few moves, and added mix-ups into the list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1: :2::3::6::h:+:P: Pros: A single throw that leads to big damage. Cons: Has the same disadvantages as every other throw in the...