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  1. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    Yeah 2H+K, not like that move doesn't push the opponent a mile away on it already... but I do understand what you're saying. I'm still pretty mad that they didn't actually give her a low crush, and now she has the same 4PP as Hitomi lol (19i my ass, I'm joking, we're just going to have to use...
  2. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    Yeah I'm definitely joking, those are some really hard matchups for Rachel, but I've practiced enough against them tat I can handle the matchups pretty well...
  3. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    We can't really be mad that Rachel got nerfed; we all knew it would happen eventually, and despite the fact that we've all told people how to beat her (and also don't struggle against Rachels ourselves) they still felt that Rachel was OP, and the thread stayed up since WEEK 1 (even though they...
  4. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    Well, in a most technical sense, -12i is currently launch combo punishable (due to how fast the average launch grab is... that is unless you're Rachel, with her now nerfed launch grab...) so 1PP and 214P were always launch punishable if you knew what you were doing frame-wise. You can still get...
  5. Itz King Beebop

    Well... on the contrary to what I said yesterday, looks like the crybabies won the nerf war...

    Well... on the contrary to what I said yesterday, looks like the crybabies won the nerf war... so no more ball stomps for Rachel -_-
  6. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    Well, due to the recent Rachel nerfs, I feel that all of her matchups are a little worse than before (due to the smacking of her vortex.) Would this mean x MAD AXES x would have to revise the matchups he already put up? -_-
  7. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    It's just so funny to me now... I came to this community to get away from the idiotic crybabies who refuse to adapt on Tekken, but it turns out to be just a little bit worse on DOA. It has come to the point where high level players (Black Mamba) feel that the community is taking a nose-dive into...
  8. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    That's why I said Momiji is a bad matchup for Rachel, 'cause she can be used like a toned down Ayane... I'm pretty sure that vINv can vouch for me in this notion...
  9. Itz King Beebop

    Anti-Rachel strats, tips, and tricks thread.

    Now that I think about it, this is actually one of the Rachel players that have been trying to tell people how to play with Rachel on the threads...
  10. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    I think that it's agreed that the whiffed stomp (2K) should be negative on wake up, but not punishable IMO... If Rachel is getting hit with 40-60 dmg for whiffing a high-priority move, there won't be any reason to keep going for the move and she'll have to basically go about dealing with wakeup...
  11. Itz King Beebop

    I'm tired of hearing all this nerf Rachel nonsense... I wanna punch all the Rachel-Haters in the...

    I'm tired of hearing all this nerf Rachel nonsense... I wanna punch all the Rachel-Haters in the face... JK. Nah, I just stomp their balls.
  12. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    I also feel that Lisa plays the Rachel matchup like a watered-down version of the Rachel vs Momiji matchup abusing 4H+K and the constant OHs the same way Momiji's 2H+K and 7K are used, but IMO this matchup is slightly harder than that of the Rachel vs Momiji matchup due to the fact that Lisa has...
  13. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    Okay, onto one of the characters that I feel is a direct conterpick for Rachel... Momiji. Momiji has spacing, better frames, faster pokes, and UNIVERSAL HIGH DAMAGE JUGGLES (this means no "heavyweight Rachel crybabies" 'cause she only juggles EVERYBODY.) Her 2H+K more than outspaces Rachel's...
  14. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    That's what I originally thought at first but people are coming at this with a little bit of reasoning (though it really isn't that much... -_-)
  15. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    The Kasumi vs Rachel matchup has truly gotten both easier and harder due to the changes since DOA1.03... the increased delay and new grab have both helped and hindered Rachel greatly (I'm exaggerating a little...) Fighting Kasumis now, I see all of the mid low or high low strings much, much...
  16. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    Rachel is one of the few (if not the only) characters in the game that can't do anything about lows or the opponents offense. As we already know, her spacing is ass and her defense is ASS... since she has none of this is it too much to ask that her offense be good enough so that even people with...
  17. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    If the Rig player is playing correctly, the Rig v Rachel matchup can be either better than the Rachel v Sarah matchup or just a watered down version. Rig's mids from Bending seem to give me more trouble than Sarah's FS 6K ever could, and also Rig has slightly scarier lows and I usually find that...
  18. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel match-up chart discussion

    I found the mid-oriented characters like hitomi and helena can give Rachel a run for her money; she has no highs to crush or duck, and then since her defensive options are complete ass, you run the risk of having to try and counter something to get back on offense. She also has a struggle with...
  19. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel nerfs

    Okay... we (vINv and myself) don't react to 10i moves, we simply recognize animations because 9 out of 10 times, people don't base their mixup off of animation (unless you're like me and play feng, steve, and zafina) but instead the average player who mildly knows what frames are mixes up based...
  20. Itz King Beebop

    Rachel Tips and Strats...

    How have you guys' Rachels been fairing against Kasumis and Alphas, Ayanes and Momijis. I feel like I'm going through "the struggle" whenever I fight one of them... (actually, Rachel goes through "the struggle" with most of the cast anyway,) but I haven't really had any trouble with any...
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