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The fact of whether Rachel gets wins or not depends completely upon the experience and comfortability with the game... I personally find it hard to get into the game because the overall pace of the game seems all too reckless for me, and the fact that Rachel is an offense character kind of...

Okay, here we go... First, don't use 1PP regularly; it's kind of an online string because it's completey reactable offline. Second, the stomp isn't plus (and never really was) on whiff, it's just that before the patch, she was relatively safe, and with the addition of her having a heavyweight...

Working on a shitload of my bad characters (Kokoro, Tina, Lisa, Hayate,) anyone down for games?

The only downside to the stomp, is the fact that the move is vastly reactable offline... 21i while you're on the ground removes the fears once caused by the ol' 16i stomp. I was playing with my friend from Japan a few days ago, and the matches were HELL; Rachel is so absurdly reactable offline...

I would have been down for the Rikuto nerf ideas ('cause Rikuto, 12+ yrs of experience, yeah he knows what he's doing) The stomp should have been made a just frame, that was only +8-9 on wake-up, the follow-ups would have been easier to see, and then... then the move would have been moved to...

ARE YOU TRYING TO COMPARE TINA HI-COUNTER THROW DAMAGE TO RACHEL'S? WTF kind of community to we have twaddlefuckking around on here where people cry, whine, can't do math (basic math for that matter,), can't understand MUs (even when the people who main the characters tell you how) You people...

So what you're telling me is that what Rachel gained from the nerfs was this godlike online setup/mixup that is totally reactable and easy to deal with (not to mention it's easy to hold and punish)

I play Rachel because you couldn't (past tense) mash against her, and like black mamba stated before, DoA players will be DoA players and always try to attack no matter the circumstance... I believed the charcter was broken at first too, but my friend displayed to me that all you need to do to...

This is kind of why Gen Fu and Ayane didn't really bother me as characters... they go their fair share of nerfs when the game was released and then again in the recent patch... so yeah... sorry Gen Fus nd Alphas

Is Viper Twist her 6T? idk... I have really been edging for a proper low crush

I understand your reasoning in this matchup, but the worst this matchup can go for either character is a 5-5; I feel that this is a completely even matchup... I say this because Ein's spacing (vs Rachel) is equally as good as Rachel's CQC (vs Ein)... Rachel has the range game of a cap gun, and...

I feel that since the Rachel Nerfs thread has been up since week 1 of the game release, Rachel players should have the freedom to keep this Rachel Buffs thread up for week 1 of the game's first patch. For any of the moderators watching this characters threads, I only want to get a discussion...

the stomp on whiff wasn't as absurd as many made it off to be... it's -10i on the 3PP setup, -18i on the 6PK setup, and -21i on the 9P setup (OK! IT IS THAT BAD XD)... making the stomp that negative not only helps people get out of the blender, but instead makes the blender an almost nonviable...

As Rachel players, we have to be sure not to become the whiners that got Rachel (Momiji, and Alpha) nerfed in the first place... just be calm, and prove to all the crybabies that you can adapt to being nerfed... (when they see that, they'll just nerf her again anyway lol)

The feeling of your main getting nerfed can make one overreact, but the nerfs aren't that bad, after all Rachel wasn't that good anyway...

To be completely honest the nerfs weren't as drastic as I made them seem yesterday... They didn't murder Rachel they just made her MUs against 90% of the cast more realistic; making "the Struggle" apparent all of the time, as opposed to some of the time when you were truly working mixups and...

Surprisingly they gave Leon a buff... why give him a buff? Was he not scary enough already? It's not even the fact that it wasn't a game-changing buff, but the principle of nerfing low-tier Rachel to death, and buffing Leon... WTF TN... I can't really blame the company, they're trying to look...

they aren't absurd nerfs (like Rachel) just look at the DoA5U1.03 patch comments on the home page

they reduced her frame advantage by like, a lot... and some of her moves are more unsafe alpha was also nerfed too, some of them were needed (7K is punishable) and some of them weren't (her frame advantage highs, like 9KP and similar strings were taken away)

too late, they unnecessarily nerfed Momiji too ('cause she was OP right?) but those nerfs weren't really that bad....