Vincent Rayne
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lol. i don't hate tekken. i just don't like it. but i'm definitely now in a fantasy world. i'm a realist so i'm far from that, lol. i thought your name looked familiar.
Can someone please explain to me "Free Cancelling"
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unseen wombat
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Well thinking that Tekken is "technically" or otherwise not a 3D fighter is pure fantasy. I'd say it has more elements of 3D than DOA does.
Vincent Rayne
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please name them.
JannLeeVsLaw
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That's ok, I already got my answers in the previous posts. Feel free to clarify things further though if you like
dawnbringer
Active Member
I think it was mostly answered already. I will answer anyway, and maybe I will bring some new points to it.
For example, Sarah may do to get +1, then immediately follow-up with her elbow . input ensures that of input won't be recognized as part of her string.
Point of free-cancelling is to cancel string input, forcing last hit to recover normally when it's done. Game system will recognize following input as new string (or action). Free-cancelling cannot improve move recovery, because it never cancels move recovery
Since the point if free cancelling is modifying input interpretation, you can attempt it for any move with string follow-ups.
Anything that can be done from neutral. Because free-cancelling makes following inputs be interpreted as if they are done from neutral.
Yes, you can do an entire new string right after. However, since move recovery is not affected, next string will start only after first string recovers, so there's no added benefit.
For example, Sarah may do
to get +1, then immediately follow-up with her elbow . input ensures that of input won't be recognized as part of her string.
JannLeeVsLaw
Member
Thanks a lot, this definitely covers everything I wasn't sure about before. You're awesome!
unseen wombat
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How about sidestep attacks that actually have a purpose other than chip damage and can actually be used to start combos. How about moves that have built in sidesteps. How about combos that require you to be on or off axis to connect?
Cozmo
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If i understand right the input like will be the 100% fastest and 100% guarantied input if i want to make 2 combo punches and a BASIC throw after them. Unlike input [recovery frames] which is not 100% guarantied, because i can push earlier then recovery ends, and if i push smth. on my d-pad i can make not basic throw with 4 frames but smth. another.
Is it right?
SCREAM OF MY SOUL: stop making offtopic please!
will be the 100% fastest and 100% guarantied input if i want to make 2 combo punches and a BASIC throw after them. Unlike input [recovery frames] which is not 100% guarantied, because i can push earlier then recovery ends, and if i push smth. on my d-pad i can make not basic throw with 4 frames but smth. another.Is it right?
SCREAM OF MY SOUL: stop making offtopic please!
On the DOA x Tekken topic... Itegaki was the only person in Team Ninja that hated Tekken.
"Free canceling" does not actually cancel the recovery frames or anything like that. I'm not even sure why it's called "Free canceling". All you are doing is simply avoiding wasting frames due to trying to manually wait for the animation to finish before you start a new string. With "free cancelling", you are buffering the start of a new string so it will automatically begin on the earliest frame possible. We should rename "free cancelling", but I don't have a suggestion.
I didn't see that anyone answered this question, so I will real quick.Ok great. So I'm a little confused still about how the
"Free canceling" does not actually cancel the recovery frames or anything like that. I'm not even sure why it's called "Free canceling". All you are doing is simply avoiding wasting frames due to trying to manually wait for the animation to finish before you start a new string. With "free cancelling", you are buffering the start of a new string so it will automatically begin on the earliest frame possible. We should rename "free cancelling", but I don't have a suggestion.
this should help ..
I made this for the Alpha demo .. but the rules are the same n everything still stands.
I made this for the Alpha demo .. but the rules are the same n everything still stands.
JannLeeVsLaw
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Thanks heaps buddy. I've watched your other videos and they are great. I'll check this out
Edit: Just watched it, really helpful and easy to understand. Thanks again
Edit: Just watched it, really helpful and easy to understand. Thanks again
hounddog75
Member
This is a pretty important thread for newbies like me. Is it possible to tag and clean up this thread to remove the excess. And by excess you can delete my post too.
I think it would be better to make a new thread that fully explains "free cancelling" in the first post, including a link to Emperor Cow's vid.
The thread should also include a disclaimer to hardcore fighting game players that they should not get confused by the term "cancelling" and think that "free cancel" actually cancels anything. I think that's why a lot of us who come from other games get confused. "Cancelling" is supposed to mean you are actually literally cancelling frames of animation. But with "free cancelling" in DOA5, you are not actually cancelling anything. You are just telling the game to not continue your current string. We really should rename "free cancelling". Perhaps... "free string end" or something.