DrDogg
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That makes SO much more sense. I could NOT figure out what DOA4 "Bees" meant. lol
Dead or Alive 5 Alpha Demo System and Character Discussions
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That makes SO much more sense. I could NOT figure out what DOA4 "Bees" meant. lol
DrDogg
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Helena didn't... and you still have to risk being held. The only difference I see is that now you only risk being held twice during an offensive exchange. Before it was at least twice, up to six or seven times in some cases.
As I said, the underlying issue is still there.
Female Tengu
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I love that they nerfed Hayabusa's OP launcher (8K) 
btw, does Ayane have any limbo stuns?
btw, does Ayane have any limbo stuns?
TRI Mike
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What disturbs me a little is that most casuals online will have an easy time holding mids. The same happened in Dimensions to me. In DOA2U and 4 I could extend my stuns hitting my opponents with mid kicks and punches because they were held in different ways. But in Dimensions, pretty much everyone just spams the mid-hold as soon as they get hit by anything and they damage you by getting lucky. Fortunately, I was able to apply more highs and lows into my stun-building formula.
x Sypher x
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OMG I KNOW RIGHT? Lol XD
A simpler solution is to just grab the fuck out of anyone who counters as soon as he gets hit. Resist the urge to pull off a flashy combo
True you could and should if they are indeed 'Spamming it' the only problem is that some players just wait for a move to come out first and then hold since the hold comes out in Zero frames. I still think 4 point is the way to go.
MASTER
ScattereDreams
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A simpler solution is to just grab the fuck out of anyone who counters as soon as he gets hit. Resist the urge to pull off a flashy combo
I think there should be some moves and, situations where your opponent can't counter. Though, as long as each character has a good variety of launchers + strong mix up game then shouldn't be a big issue. If grabbing works for you, then whatever gets the win. Depending on how useful sidestepping becomes may determine if it's a good tool for whiff punishing during recovery frames.
x Sypher x
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True you could and should if they are indeed 'Spamming it' the only problem is that some players just wait for a move to come out first and then hold since the hold comes out in Zero frames. I still think 4 point is the way to go.
MASTER
YES
x Sypher x
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Yeah but sometimes they surprise you lol.
Gill Hustle
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Oooh you can taunt b4 each round!
" Mu-dada!"
" Mu-dada!"
So technically, what you are saying is, "Look, I just like doing attacks, if the person holds then I want to do a hit that the hold doesn't work against, so I'll just attack, then I'll complain that he can hold my attack. I don't want to throw or punish the hold, because that's boring, I just want to attack because that's awesome." Is that about right?
Game Over
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Not really, I usually do punish holds with throws but sometimes it pisses me off that I can't do the combos I want. That's all, no need to be an ass about it man
Playing a competitive fighting game is not about being able to do all the moves/combos/flashy shenanigans/etc. you want all the time, it's about doing what it takes to defeat an opponent. If you are bored with the game anytime an opponent responds in a matter where throws become a better option than combos, then you may want to consider playing a different game. Or, at least, not post your thoughts so freely on a competitive fighting game forum if you just want to play the game casually at a low level.
Otherwise, you're just ASKING to get trolled!
NOTE: (U)MvC3 is a good game for doing flashy combos all the time. Have you considered playing that, or have you already?
hey guys i have a suggestion ... you know the QTE parts ? like when your in the bottom end of the stage and you have to press the right button to get the flying car slam ...
on xbox it says A, B , X or Y ....
i was thinking ...
i play on stick and i only have 3 buttons mapped H P and K ...
wouldnt it make more sense if the QTE segments were restricted to just those?
and instead of saying the acctual button name .. it would say H P or K ?
i just think that would make a whole world of more sense ... at least to me ...
what do you guys think ?
on xbox it says A, B , X or Y ....
i was thinking ...
i play on stick and i only have 3 buttons mapped H P and K ...
wouldnt it make more sense if the QTE segments were restricted to just those?
and instead of saying the acctual button name .. it would say H P or K ?
i just think that would make a whole world of more sense ... at least to me ...
what do you guys think ?
TRI Mike
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You really think Dead or Alive Dimensions is a competitive fighting game¿
You don't seem to have read when I said that I usually do punish holds with throws. And yes, I've played UMvC3 and I hate it with a passion.
Game Over
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DOAD is a handheld installment of the DOA fighting game series. It is a fighting game. Fighting games, in most cases, are played competitively. Just because there aren't a plethora of tournaments happening for the game doesn't mean it is somehow not a game made for competitive play. We aren't talking about a side-scrolling platformer here.
And yes, I did see where you said you punish holds with throws. I also saw where you said doing this makes the game boring to you. You even said that the game "feels" better when you attack your opponent even when they initiate a hold. What you seem to have missed is that THIS is the reason I responded to your post, and was trying to highlight a point. But if you refuse to take notice, then I suppose you will just go on wondering why various posts of yours will receive responses like Sorwah's above.
All that needs to be said about this has now been said.