DOA5+ for PS Vita

[MESSY]

Right. So...Still looking for an example.

There you go, no throw. Jann Lee can easily do that with an electrical wall. Hint: F+K

I haven't even mentioned Lee's ceiling combos but I know you guys are gonna say it's low probability, though in reality this often happens.

Further to that, not to mention if you guess wrong twice he can get 200+ guaranteed, almost every stage.

Seriously, all you guys need is Tekken. Go play that game. Lots of guaranteed big damage combos.

 

[Yaguar]

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Come on, Messy. I remember you being cool and an inspiration to all UK DOA players of every ethnicity.
What happened to you? D:

We need less hate and a minor rejoice that the PS Vita is actually getting new games! Shit I've been waiting for the EU release of Ragnarok Odyssey for months now so DOA 5+ is a nice little bonus for any disposable in come I manage to find this year. Some good games all over imo.

 

[DR2K]

There you go, no throw. Jann Lee can easily do that with an electrical wall. Hint: F+K

I haven't even mentioned Lee's ceiling combos but I know you guys are gonna say it's low probability, though in reality this often happens.

Further to that, not to mention if you guess wrong twice he can get 200+ guaranteed, almost every stage.

Seriously, all you guys need is Tekken. Go play that game. Lots of guaranteed big damage combos.

How often is there a ceiling to worry about? 2 out of 20 levels? How often is Jann lee going to hit you with a full charged mid punch move? Never?

Electric wall = half life+ combos for low damage characters like Helena.

I've guess wrong 2/3 times vs Jann multiple times with a low damage character and still won. He has weaknesses, he still is forced to guess lik everyone else.

 

[MESSY]

Come on, Messy. I remember you being cool and an inspiration to all UK DOA players of every ethnicity.
What happened to you? D:

We need less hate and a minor rejoice that the PS Vita is actually getting new games! Shit I've been waiting for the EU release of Ragnarok Odyssey for months now so DOA 5+ is a nice little bonus for any disposable in come I manage to find this year. Some good games all over imo.

Let me tell you something. I am not impressed.

Now with less and less people playing DOA5, all TK could think of seems to be another money grabbing thing: releasing DOA5 on another platform. There's nothing wrong with money grabbing but you gotta perfect the game first! A lot of fans are losing their patience wating for the balancing patch, from a long time ago!

There are some differences in opinions about how this game should be.

Asain gamers generally hate: "I can put my controller down and watch somebody kill half a life bar with a dead simple combo".

US gamers generally hate: "No guaranteed damage, they should not be able to get away with making ONE mistake".

Now DOA5 is the only game where TN seems have pissed off both parties. They are trying to please everyone but ended up with a DEMO pleasing nobody. I'd rather they go extreme: either more of DOA3 or more triangle system. Do something! It's their JOB to make an interesting fighting game system. There's no need to listen too much to the end user - Steve Jobs.

 

[MESSY]

How often is there a ceiling to worry about? 2 out of 20 levels? How often is Jann lee going to hit you with a full charged mid punch move? Never?

1. You are missing the point I was simply answering somebody else's question about 2 combos killing you.

2. Whenever Lee's puts you into CB, he can get a full charge 33P. What is the probability now!?

3. You're welcome for the DOA lesson I just gave you.

 

[Skilletor]

You still haven't given me an example of a combo that, once you get hit, kills you in two combos. And yeah, I meant feasible, since you made it seem like it was commonplace and happened all the time. Sorry, I thought that was implied from the way you made it sound brain dead easy to do.

You're also wrong since Tekken is the most popular fighting game in Asia. And you're also exaggerating about making mistakes.

People seem to only take arguments to one extreme or the other. If I want guaranteed damage, suddenly I want 239048203948098 hit combos and no ability for my opponent to retaliate.

 

[CyberEvil]

Alright that's enough. Take it to a conversation if you need to, but no more. Keep on topic.

 

[MESSY]

You still haven't given me an example of a combo that, once you get hit, kills you in two combos.

F+K on Hi Counter blow, does 130+ guaranteed can't escape can't hold, with an electrical wall it is 150+ every time. Now is a wall common in DOA? Is fall down common in DOA? Is environmental damage common in DOA?

I haven't mentioned if you don't slow escape real quick then hold correctly he can get around 200. Does that kill you in two or 1.5 combos?

No I'm not gonna teach you the caveman combo, there are already enough 9 year olds doing it all day. It's dead simple. Wondering why so many people talking about DOA5 being an easy to learn game?

The popularity of Tekken is irrelavent. Itagaki already said this a long time ago: "The five games I most hate are Tekken 1 2 3 4 & 5". That explained how DOA was made and it should certainly stay like that. If you don't like this about DOA in the first place why not play other games?

We are keeping on the topic about DOA+ cause we are all concerned about how this game is evolving. It needs to be a finished product so everyone can stop bitching about how the game should have been made.

 

[Yaguar]

We are keeping on the topic about DOA+ cause we are all concerned about how this game is evolving. It needs to be a finished product so everyone can stop bitching about how the game should have been made.

They will most likely have had a plan in place originally for a PS Vita port. This means that the source code wont need huge changes for this. What will need changing will be shaders/art assets.

When a game is complete a smaller team are put in charge of bugs/DLC content anyway. The main development team will move onto a new project. It is called a life cycle and software (games are software) have one.

As such the team responsible for DOA 5 post-release will be working on DOA 5 post-release. The team concerned with modifying the necessary parts for the Vita port will be doing that and probably have been long before DOA 5 released on a console, they may even be a contract team who specialise in ports to handhelds (very common).

TL;DR: Everyone will be doing what they are supposed to and nothing will change that fact. The people on the PS Vita port would only be doing something else anyway.

 

[Rikuto]

F+K on Hi Counter blow, does 130+ guaranteed can't escape can't hold, with an electrical wall it is 150+ every time. Now is a wall common in DOA? Is fall down common in DOA? Is environmental damage common in DOA?

I haven't mentioned if you don't slow escape real quick then hold correctly he can get around 200. Does that kill you in two or 1.5 combos?

No I'm not gonna teach you the caveman combo, there are already enough 9 year olds doing it all day. It's dead simple. Wondering why so many people talking about DOA5 being an easy to learn game?

The popularity of Tekken is irrelavent. Itagaki already said this a long time ago: "The five games I most hate are Tekken 1 2 3 4 & 5". That explained how DOA was made and it should certainly stay like that. If you don't like this about DOA in the first place why not play other games?

We are keeping on the topic about DOA+ cause we are all concerned about how this game is evolving. It needs to be a finished product so everyone can stop bitching about how the game should have been made.

Did you seriously just try to make the argument that Itagaki actually knew what he was doing at any point during development? I thought you were a little more in-the-loop than that.

And his rivalry between DOA and Tekken was 100% fabricated for publicity. He admitted it openly after he left Team Ninja.

 

[D Glock]

 

[DR2K]

That beach stage. *unzips*

 

[Kasumi]

I really hate the way TN/Tecmo is managing the marketing of this game.

 

[CyberEvil]

Well they've just given up on the more mature approach completely now, haven't they? Not a single punch thrown in that trailer. Waste of 30 seconds.

 

[synce]

Their twitter practically confirms there will eventually be a DOAX3... and why not? This is the age of DLC. They can make a fuckton of money with DOAX3 bikini packs.

 

[SilverForte]

I wouldnt say no to a DoaX3 if it was fun, ya gotta back up the eye candy with some substance.

 

[Chaos]

You see, this is why people outside of this community don't take DOA seriously and the reason why the series doesn't get the respect as good as VF, just saying

 

[Keved]

There was more flesh in that trailer than at my local butcher shop.

The stage looks stunning, but give us gameplay next time instead of some 30 second, erotica gallery. We know the girls look pixel pretty, we know their chest-ornaments wobble & weave like bed sheets flapping from washing lines on a windy day & we know they wear bikinis as thin as shoe laces. Show us something we haven't seen, like more of this beach stage, which i will say again, looks absolutely stunning.

 

[prototypetom]

I really hate the way TN/Tecmo is managing the marketing of this game.

couldn't agree more.

imo, DOAX etc took an incalculably big bite out of the franchises future credibility - now it seems like all they've got... and therefore to outside observers, it seems like all they've got. a couple of bullshit exploitation games and they handicapped what by now could have been THE 3d fighter. we could be on DOA7 instead of 5, and the mistakes we see now could have been addressed 5 years ago.

They don't seem to understand how in most territories, that after a point, overplaying the T+A card turns toxic. That or they don't have the resources to do it any different - or they're not confident they can compete in ways beyond their "strength"... maybe they can't. I thought they were going to start addressing one of the core reasons - public perception - that this game isn't taken as seriously as it deserves when i saw "i am a fighter". flawed or not, this franchise, at this age, should be walking into EVO etc, the second name on the card. But no, their choices, their marketing and their DLC fanservice fucktardery means fans are having to throw their money at the problem. seriously, how many sodding bikinis do they think it takes to sell the game to the guy who likes bikinis? (if you're reading this TN, the answer is a hand full, *fnar fnar* not dozens )

after seeing that trailer, i think i'm done. I was all set to buy a Vita for this game, but not now. I'll stick with DOA5 because it has the merits for me to do so, and i'll keep trying to learn the game. and I hope there's a DOA6 in the future that the authors themselves can take seriously and invest in taking it seriously - until they do, why should I?

witness the power of marketing.

 

[Kronin]

Dead or alive 5+ will include some gravure movies of the girls and a paradise bikini pack (different from the DLC of the next Tuesday): this trailer was intended to publicize just those new additions to the game.

And about DOAX3, also if I'm sure it will arrive in the future, the translation of the twitter say that currently there are no plans of a sequel.