Manny "won." 
So I missed half the Bass talk, but I've heard his qcfP is still shit. See, I would've told Shimbori to just make him SS much further or just replace it with the 3.1/3.2 version with the +8 frame advantage because it's high and it would make sense for a high move to have more frame advantage.
He clearly mentioned that he missed half of the discussion. =PYou apparently didn't stick around.
He clearly mentioned that he missed half of the discussion. =P
You apparently didn't stick around. It DOES give you +8 advantage again - Rikuto and DrDogg were very quick to point that out.
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in Hoshinpo is an offensive hold