Keep the DOA4 Lobby System and some other feedback

[Raansu]

But we everyone knows that most of the ppl who made DOA4 left with Itagaki, and DOA5 builds on the crappy DOA D..

No they didn't. Also DoAD is DoA4 with very few changes to it...

I m also seeing a lot of cuts on the moves list from DOA4, even they left a moves that isn't respond in combos like in DOA4, or cutting button combination on the same previous moves that r in the new game.. so basically they'll cut DOA4 on half + little stuff from DOA3 and D and that's will become less new DOA game.. too bad for hardcore DOA fans.

Hate too disappoint you but DoA4 was garbage. Having an abundance of useless attacks and everything stunning was annoying to good players. So no, this is not too bad for hardcore DoA players. Most of us don't want the game to even resemble DoA4.

I never said that my speed is dl or ul kid, so upload speed is not the only thing that matters, and for sure DOA5 need a server for sync, that's obvious, without it the player with faster ping wins even if your ul speed is 100Mbps. With the right speed and etc. provided from the internet providers, net code of the games, servers etc. lobby that is processing in the background it will not matter.
As for the "CRAP" word that u said, i would return it with " go educated yourself " for example go to work in some net company for 4-5 years maybe you understand the " overall things better "(with 1 stone u can't build a house).

Here is a lab assignment to one of my networking classes. If you can tell me what is going on then I will gladly have a chat with you about networking. Until then, stfu you idiot because you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[donerjack]

wow doa4 is garbage, u r the biggest idiot that exist in this world ever. There is no better fighting game than DOA4.

..and no no i no DoA D isn't DOA4. DOA d was just a training/test game, nothing more than doa4, just some training, TN wanted to prepare themselves for the real DOA5..
For sure lots of casual noob players here, that's very very bad, hope DOA5 will not become worst game ever, if TN get advice from such ppl, who shit around DOA4...

Ransuu just saw all of yr post here and they are are all big shit, u don't understand anything dude.. u r the shitiest person ever. Even Tekken fans who hates DOA series, doesn't talk so much shit about it. And to tell you about yr homework? why? u r still noob, even in school... Bakka, go lose yourself in WC.

 

[Rikuto]

Non-casual for sure are agreeing with this one. That's was my point also the answer on grap3 question. Like a "pro" level player i want to be in doa5, also i think its good for newcomers and the community in the game itself.
They r a lot of ppl who talks, writes only in lobbies, for example i dont talk or give advices if some1 is sending me msg via xbox, but if they write/talk in the lobbies for sure I give them advices ...

So basically what you're saying is that you ignore people if they approach you, but you'll happily take up a spot in someones room to chat?

 

[donerjack]

So basically what you're saying is that you ignore people if they approach you, but you'll happily take up a spot in someones room to chat?

approaching? i never use this word, its wrong in meaning.. also spot? what spot? everything that u r saying is basically mean that you trying to shit around me dude. OR u just didn't read and understand anything i said at all.. But OK I ll explain it to you like i explain things to my little kids and all other little/big kids in the world.

they r like tons of ppl sending you msg's even ppl that you didn't see, or u don't remember, u can't see what rank they r, or who they r, they r tons of fakers and ppl who wants only to shit around, so unless u met the person in the lobby and fight him 1-2 battles to see what level he is , just then if he ask for help and u have time u help him.. or if u like his game/style u can ask him if he need help pointers... or u can point him 1-2 things, if he want more info, lesson, pointers, that's just NICE !!!

i guess u have Zero EXP in DOA4 online, life there, lobby etc...

 

[Jefffcore]

Talking to someone in or out of the game is a personal thing, and it doesn't really change that lobbies aren't necessary. What positive comes from lobbies? There are negatives, there aren't any positives that can't be accomplished by other means.

 

[Raansu]

wow doa4 is garbage, u r the biggest idiot that exist in this world ever. There is no better fighting game than DOA4.

Pretty much everyone on this site will disagree with you on that one... I suggest doaworld.com for your casual/ignorant needs.

..and no no i no DoA D isn't DOA4. DOA d was just a training/test game, nothing more than doa4, just some training, TN wanted to prepare themselves for the real DOA5..
For sure lots of casual noob players here, that's very very bad, hope DOA5 will not become worst game ever, if TN get advice from such ppl, who shit around DOA4...

DoAD revolved around the same mechanics as DoA4 with only slight changes to it. The only casual noob is you. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Ransuu just saw all of yr post here and they are are all big shit, u don't understand anything dude.. u r the shitiest person ever.

I understand enough to know that DoA4 was garbage and that DoA3.1 was a much more solid fighter.

Even Tekken fans who hates DOA series, doesn't talk so much shit about it.

Ohhh yes they do lol.

And to tell you about yr homework? why? u r still noob, even in school... Bakka, go lose yourself in WC.

So basically your answer is "I have no idea whats going on in that picture so I'm going to spew off some random nonsense.

approaching? i never use this word, its wrong in meaning.. also spot? what spot? everything that u r saying is basically mean that you trying to shit around me dude. OR u just didn't read and understand anything i said at all.. But OK I ll explain it to you like i explain things to my little kids and all other little/big kids in the world.

they r like tons of ppl sending you msg's even ppl that you didn't see, or u don't remember, u can't see what rank they r, or who they r, they r tons of fakers and ppl who wants only to shit around, so unless u met the person in the lobby and fight him 1-2 battles to see what level he is , just then if he ask for help and u have time u help him.. or if u like his game/style u can ask him if he need help pointers... or u can point him 1-2 things, if he want more info, lesson, pointers, that's just NICE !!!

i guess u have Zero EXP in DOA4 online, life there, lobby etc...

Firs of all, rank means nothing in an online game. Even if it did, you don't need retarded lobbies that DoA4 used to see what someones rank is. All the game needs is a basic lobby like what DoA2U used or what SC5 uses. That retarded avatar shit in DoA4 was a waste of bandwidth and caused a lot of problems with latency.

Secondly, Riktuo is one of the best DoA players in the world. Telling him he has no experience is pretty ignorant on your part. Get out from under that rock and quit pretending like you know what you are talking about.

 

[Rikuto]

approaching? i never use this word, its wrong in meaning.. also spot? what spot? everything that u r saying is basically mean that you trying to shit around me dude. OR u just didn't read and understand anything i said at all.. But OK I ll explain it to you like i explain things to my little kids and all other little/big kids in the world.

they r like tons of ppl sending you msg's even ppl that you didn't see, or u don't remember, u can't see what rank they r, or who they r, they r tons of fakers and ppl who wants only to shit around, so unless u met the person in the lobby and fight him 1-2 battles to see what level he is , just then if he ask for help and u have time u help him.. or if u like his game/style u can ask him if he need help pointers... or u can point him 1-2 things, if he want more info, lesson, pointers, that's just NICE !!!

i guess u have Zero EXP in DOA4 online, life there, lobby etc...

I've never played it. Heard it was a pretty good game.

Are you a pro? Can you show me how to play Bayman?

 

[Tenren]

at first i wasn't going to replay in this thread but after reading some post i feel donerjack is, 1: either trolling, or 2: hasn't actually taken the time to read the abundance of info this site has to offer. I can also tell you being one of the few people that care enough to actual know DOA4 mechanics its a shit game when compared to any of the others DOA games. That doesn't mean its a bad over all game. Bur I take it you only learned DOA4.

 

[Awesmic]

Heaven forbid we encourage a "casual/ignorant noob" like Donerjack to go to DOAWorld.com and give birth to a second Awesmic, a person who was motivated by casual/ignorant needs that shocked and surprised everyone who assumed he would never amount to anything in his first offline tournament.

Oh no... we wouldn't want that.

 

[Allan Paris]

Heaven forbid we encourage a "casual/ignorant noob" like Donerjack to go to DOAWorld.com and give birth to a second Awesmic, a person who was motivated by casual/ignorant needs that shocked and surprised everyone who assumed he would never amount to anything in his first offline tournament.

Oh no... we wouldn't want that.

This is how you "defend" this, now you are not to far behind him. Who said you wouldn't amount to anything in this game? Screw what you feel, please educate me and tell me who exactly has said that to you? Jokingly yeah he should go there but honestly that wouldn't help him. He needs to be here, to learn or at least pick up something actually useful in this game.


Everything you are asking for in DOA5 donerjack, it doesn't need it. I can only assume that you have only played doa4 hardcore and that is why you want the stupid things from it to transfer to 5. Nothing about DOA4 is plausible to play it competitively, I mean, have you noticed that you play the SAME players everyday if you still play DOA4? Over the mass majority of players didn't stop playing it because it was old, something is obviously wrong with the game.

If you really want that stuff to be in the game, I suggest you fill out a survey and send it to TN. No one here is going to entertain none of those wishes you are asking for, it wont make in none of the feedback that is being collected here.

 

[x Sypher x]

at first i wasn't going to replay in this thread but after reading some post i feel donerjack is, 1: either trolling, or 2: hasn't actually taken the time to read the abundance of info this site has to offer.

Or 3: He doesn't speak proper English, lol.

 

[EMPEROR_COW]

as much as I like the lobbies .. the way it was made kind of hurt the game in a sense that when a laggy player got in... it was a disaster for everyone else (especially with no kick option >__>)

if they make the lobby in a way that does not interfere with the fight bandwidth then im ok with that .. n it could be fun

but I kinda like the soul calibur 5 lobby ... i think it was done really well especially with the chat log... nice , simple and to the point.

 

[Gill Hustle]

Talking to someone in or out of the game is a personal thing, and it doesn't really change that lobbies aren't necessary. What positive comes from lobbies? There are negatives, there aren't any positives that can't be accomplished by other means.

Party chat for all, does PSN have one cuz I've never used mine for online play yet?

 

[Jefffcore]

Not unless they've added it in the last year. It still isn't necessary to have a full lobby system for people to just sit and talk, they just need the ability to skip their turn.

 

[DriftSlave]

I play alot of fighters online and I get mixed feelings about online from game to game, people say the KOFXIII and SCV have terrible online...but yet i get lag free matches with top players around the world...SFxTK pretty much has the best online for a fighter imo(I liked 3SOE as well) second to VF5 Online on 360, but i'll wait for skullgirls to see how it stacks up. DOA4 from what i remember of its online...you were underwater the whole time, but it was manageable as it was consistent but i didn't like matchmaking in that game. If anything I enjoy SCV's online lobbies and stuff *shrugs* i like having that spectator chat. but I think PSN has party chat...I hear everyone in endless battle

 

[Awesmic]

Jokingly yeah he should go there but honestly that wouldn't help him. He needs to be here, to learn or at least pick up something actually useful in this game.

Tell that to Raansu, not me. He's the one screwing things up. All I did was make a sarcastic rebuttal because I know better.

I can clearly see Donerjack's adopting the typical habits of a troll (not assuming he is one, but he has to be aware), and there was no need for me to address those concerns. My real gripe is this... if Raansu's gonna go so far as to talk about DOAW, the least he can do is quit bashin' the site in its entirety. At this rate, even Grape's making an honest effort.

I mean come on, there's a handful of people from there trying to give this one a chance (some if only because I tried to convince them). For example, Kodachi, LondonLust, BlasianPersuasion, Wydra, and some folks who're going by alternate names that want to remain confidential because A) They're scared of y'all. B) They're afraid you'll make snap judgments about their posts because they're from that site. And being someone who knows better about the folks there, well... I had to say something. No one else was, and I couldn't just let him get away with that.

OK, that ends my rant. Let's move on.

 

[grap3fruitman]

The only person really pushing this "FSD hates everyone from DOAW train" is you Awesmic. Despite what you seem to think, it seems to me that you're the most negative person on here and constantly pushing this "hate agenda" between the two sites and not to mention your own "Well, I'd contribute but then I'd get yelled at" attitude. Everyone's welcome here as long as they make well though-out, coherent posts. Are there going to be disagreements on items? Of course.

Unlike what you seem to be suggesting, those disagreements aren't limited to people from here against people from outside sites. I think everyone on here wants a better DOA game but not everyone's going to agree on the same exact means to go about that and this has caused tension between longtime members here and will continue to in the future.

 

[Awesmic]

The only person really pushing this "FSD hates everyone from DOAW train" is you Awesmic. Despite what you seem to think, it seems to me that you're the most negative person on here and constantly pushing this "hate agenda" between the two sites and not to mention your own "Well, I'd contribute but then I'd get yelled at" attitude.

Likewise, keeping me on my toes every time someone gets offended by something you could've worded a lot better from the get-go is just as tiresome. Eventually, it takes a toll on whatever positive attitude I have left to a point where I just stop trying. I would believe my actions are justified.

But in spite of all that, I'll play your little game and make myself think I'm the bad guy. I'm the reason everything's going wrong around here. So are you quite satisfied that I acknowledged this? Good. Now leave me alone.

 

[EMPEROR_COW]

this is gonna be a lil' off topic but ....

so much hate ... so much cursing ...
why cant we all just hold hands and get along ...
why is it so hard to accept that people can have different opinions ... even if you viewd those opinions as .. well ... shit .. lol ...

this forum is full of rage ...
hell I never posted in a doa forum before but Im pretty known for my street fighter side...and taking this game a little more seriously was a beautiful breath of fresh air ... only to be countered by rage n hate and people talking back... it still didnt affect my view on the game but it is very counter productive...

just like when i said that i didnt like the flow of SCV and suddenly it was taken as blasphemy ... its a fricken opinion people !

I'm sure all you guys have alot of knowledge as far as this game goes ... but ... conduct can be held in a much more polite matter ... some people hate holds in stun some peope hate the counter window some people hate the recovery etc ... personally im ok with the current flow of the game .. this is my opinion .. doesnt make me the enemy ...

now that guy who doesnt know engish ... well weather hes trolling or not .. his ideas may seem crap to you .. if he sees doa4 as god's present to mankind then hes entitled to that opinion ... granted it wasnt the most popular doa but i sure as hell played the hell out of it just like every doa before it ... if he likes the dumb lobbies and is over looking the nightmares associated with it ..then yeah his opinion ... dont get me wrong .. his comebacks arent any better either ... theres just so much hate here ...

.. but 1 guy's ideas wont shape the game ... and in the end i have a feeling 80% of all our opinions wont even matter and the game is way too far in development for certain tweaks we're requesting ... so... I for one gave my input several times but with low expectations that any of it would even be answered because again it is just one persons opinion ... so I'm just gonna wait and see ... and if the game is shaping up the way the demo is ... then I am deffinately looking forward to it ... as well as alot of the SF croud in the UK whom ive given a hands on with the demo and explained its flow to ...

it really is looking good ... (in my opinion ... ) and a hell lot more solid than 4

yeah ... pointless post but i just had to say that ...

 

[PhoenixVFIRE]

I'd rather the resources that went into making those lobbies go into over parts of the game to make it better in some way. I'll agree the lobbies in DoA4 Online were pretty cool, and different than any other lobby for a game I'd ever been in. I could live without it though, I'd rather Zack's Shop be turned into a costume, accessories, customization,etc. store for the actual CHARACTERS themselves than for little avatars that don't even matter(.00000000001%) this much. Now, I'm for anything that will make the game about being a fighter and a solid one at that, than a "Look-at-my-breasts-,aren't-they-SO-big fighter".

I'm really hoping we get to customize the characters, or get a shit ton of costumes(more than DOAU2). I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is hoping for this. Also, I think that an Online Sparring/Training mode would really freaking cool.