Lets be serious here Alpha-152 needs to be banned.

Ban her

  • Yes

    Votes: 108 55.7%
  • No

    Votes: 86 44.3%

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StrikerSashi

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This is less Viola and more SC4 Hilde, though. Alpha's already overwhelming in vanilla and I can't even imagine what she's gonna be like with buffs.
 

o_YUE_o

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I nominate September as Alpha-152 Awareness Month. Take and wear this aqua green colored ribbon.
IS... IS IT...SEE THROUGH?
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synce

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This is less Viola and more SC4 Hilde, though. Alpha's already overwhelming in vanilla and I can't even imagine what she's gonna be like with buffs.

No it's not like Hilde at all... do you see a bunch of Alphas dominating and homogenizing the scene? Generally that's why you ban characters, not because some pussies in charge find them annoying, which is exactly the case here. As I mentioned way back, Alpha's defense is even weaker now. She's kind of like Dark Phoenix or Seth, neither of which is banned because those communities know how to adapt instead of trying to ban characters from a game that's not even out yet.
 

DR2K

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No it's not like Hilde at all... do you see a bunch of Alphas dominating and homogenizing the scene? Generally that's why you ban characters, not because some pussies in charge find them annoying, which is exactly the case here. As I mentioned way back, Alpha's defense is even weaker now. She's kind of like Dark Phoenix or Seth, neither of which is banned because those communities know how to adapt instead of trying to ban characters from a game that's not even out yet.

Seth and Pheonix got major character altering nerfs per iteration. Alpha got buffs all around, and can be juggled higher as her only signifigant nerf. This does not make her a glass canon by any means, those character mentioned either die in 1-4 hits or 2(1 and a half realy) guesses.
 

RoboJoe

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Would people be happy with an Alpha nerf of having only 150 life? She would keep her advantage at neutral and be able to kill you in two good combos or throws, but at the same time will die to one good combo. I think matches versus Alpha would be more intense and hype this way, being a do or die situation for both players.
 

Brute

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Would people be happy with an Alpha nerf of having only 150 life? She would keep her advantage at neutral and be able to kill you in two good combos or throws, but at the same time will die to one good combo. I think matches versus Alpha would be more intense and hype this way, being a do or die situation for both players.
Feels kinda weird to have universal health for all characters with the sole exception of Alpha.

In general I want her to feel like like a "special boss character," not more like one.
 
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^True. Its better than banning the character all together.
 

Raansu

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But literally you guys are complaining about strings you could study and hold before things get out of hand.

Complaining about a grab (understandable... I can agree that needs to be nerfed. But... Seriously. If you get Hi.Counter grabbed once shouldn't that be a sign to oh... I dont know. maybe not hold at all? But really... it's an i20 and you'd need to be psychic to pull it off 100% of the time.)

This issue is pretty pathetic. I've dealt with worse.
(That's just my take on it. I'm not here to cause a Storm.)

Um...
 

Awesmic

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In all honesty, I don't think Alpha deserves the ban hammer just cause of a few irritating things that she had in DOA5. This is practically the same situation that FRANCE had with Viola [Soul Calibur V] Apparently she was broken and impossible to fight against. (Which was bull...considering the fact that I could shut her down any day of the week)

But...that aside, its no reason to completely BAN her before the release of 5U maybe just cause you probably dont want to see her in action during TFC? (yes, shots have been fired)
I will agree on her being nerfed to a certain degree...
But literally you guys are complaining about strings you could study and hold before things get out of hand.

Complaining about a grab (understandable... I can agree that needs to be nerfed. But... Seriously. If you get Hi.Counter grabbed once shouldn't that be a sign to oh... I dont know. maybe not hold at all? But really... it's an i20 and you'd need to be psychic to pull it off 100% of the time.)

This issue is pretty pathetic. I've dealt with worse.
(That's just my take on it. I'm not here to cause a Storm.)
Why not? Storm IS pretty hawt.

If no one else, at least I get what you'e saying.
 

hollow

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Um, hi? I've been like super chill this whole discussion? Um, like, just because you're frustrated with some people on the forum for picking apart a character you're attached to? It, like, doesn't mean you have to super rudely attack me lol or like, um, take a super condescending tone lol? Or like tell me to chill? Because I wasn't yelling. Thanks, hon.

For future reference, just because you put in "lol" and "chill" along with other textual filters doesn't make what you're saying less hostile or less condescending.

Now, if you'll kindly direct yourself to my post you will notice I said "at first glance." I wasn't acting like "they would take her grabs away lol no". I was simply saying "at first glance" she's pretty much the same as DOA5. However, again, I haven't had much time with 5U as I have schoolwork - I was gonna try to discuss what SPECIFIC changes they made to alpha (frames, damage, etc) but f**** this! Now I don't really wanna share. Read my post before you go ape-shit on someone who takes time to post in a forum with random crazy people ranting about a fictional character in a video game. You sincerely remind me of why I don't go to online forums very often. Take like 11 seconds before you post and think about what you're about to say so I don't have to read through a barrage of "lol" and all-caps. Thanks.
Ooh I hit a nerve, oh well. Point being is this, not here to be liked, here to play and this whole senseless thread is preventing people from actually enjoying the game, people take fighters so competitively with tournaments among other things making the creators fix the things that were never broken. They have the idea of a character no matter who or what it is, but "pro" (and I use that term very losely) players try and correct their ideas? Uhm no sit back and enjoy the game, have a problem with a character? Don't fight them, don't pick them or better yet just go to a different game of you want to pout. Plain and simple.
 

o_YUE_o

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Why not? Storm IS pretty hawt.

If no one else, at least I get what you'e saying.
Lol. But yeah, I'm pretty done with the thread overall. but I'm skeptical as to why they never brought this up BEFORE 5U was even announced. It's pretty mind-boggling to me.
 

Matt Ponton

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Lol. But yeah, I'm pretty done with the thread overall. but I'm skeptical as to why they never brought this up BEFORE 5U was even announced. It's pretty mind-boggling to me.

I imagine it's because they wanted to spend the time to research the character to decide how much overpowered she may or may not be.

It's not something you can logically say after 3 or 4 days of play.
 

o_YUE_o

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I imagine it's because they wanted to spend the time to research the character to decide how much overpowered she may or may not be.

It's not something you can logically say after 3 or 4 days of play.
I can agree on that.
 

Matt Ponton

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Also, there were many players who voiced their concerns over the past year with the character, spectators too. However, it wasn't until recently did anyone actually come up with some reasons to consider banning her.
 

ScattereDreams

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With patches I can agree something can be done about the character before consider banning. Someone mentioned explosion should be a chain throw. I'm all for that, toning down her damage output on throws, removing one of her CB's (or giving them similar properties. Example Helena has 3 CB's in 5U but they are all mid punches), tone down the ability to delay some of her strings, in other words make player commit to a string.
 

David Gregg

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With TFC being just around the corner (and let's face it there's not going to be a patch between now and then) I think those who have an early copy of the game need to start posting some Alpha vids stat. Like Mr. Wah said, once you ban a character there's really no going back.
 
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