MCM London DOA5 Alpha Demo "Tournament"

TRI Mike

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I dunno, I think it was kind of obvious people would play poorly on the first "official tournament". I mean it's not like every knows about the new gameplay mechanics or even have the demo at all.
 

TRI Mike

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I've never played Tekken very much except for 3 in the early PS1 era and 6 nowdays because my dad bought it for me this Christmas and honestly, I don't like the animations at all. But tag2 could be an interesting purchase if it ends up being good.
 

x Sypher x

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Because the fights were mistake after mistake after mistake and no one did anything to properly punish. No one really took advantage of the new tools, and it was overall sloppy matches. It was painful to watch.

I had a feeling you'd say that. I agree with you 100%, although IMO the only decent player there was Messy. In fact I wasn't surprised that he ended up winning the tournament. But that Hayabusa player was a typical noob -_- When I saw Hitomi being used I honestly thought to myself, "I wonder what Raansu was thinking when he saw this." Lol. I don't play Hitomi very well or often but even I could tell her full potential wasn't utilized. Oh and let's not forget that not a single punch parry was thrown out lol.
 

Berzerk!

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That's typical for events like this. The debug consoles need to be secured, which means no access to changing controllers.

It shouldn't have been run on debug, it was on the publically available demo. I've run the game at events on regular 360's no problem, so stick swapping shouldn't be an issue.

Rikuto had it right earlier, it was marketing driven so they didn't have the knowledge of the grassroots scene and how a tournament should be run. But you accept that stuff given the environment.
 

Rikuto

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Yea it was run with ignorance, can't do much about that.

Glad you got your Tag2 on though.
 

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I had a feeling you'd say that. I agree with you 100%, although IMO the only decent player there was Messy. In fact I wasn't surprised that he ended up winning the tournament. But that Hayabusa player was a typical noob -_- When I saw Hitomi being used I honestly thought to myself, "I wonder what Raansu was thinking when he saw this." Lol. I don't play Hitomi very well or often but even I could tell her full potential wasn't utilized. Oh and let's not forget that not a single punch parry was thrown out lol.

I was upset to see him keep getting hit by the :6::K: after Hitomi's :6::F+P:. You can step the :6::K: and punish her with a :2:_:8::H+P+K::P: before any of her other options come out. Especially when she is using it as a delayed poke.

I look forward to when the game comes out to see players adjust to it. It's understandable why I just kept feeling like I was watching players trying to play it like DOA4 (force tech failures, untechable failures, mix-up, etc.), the demo wasn't really out that long and the UK hasn't had many events together to really get used to the system.
 

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I wouldnt blame them so much for being ill prepared, this is the first time current team ninja has gone through this process. Hopefully it gets better with each event!
 

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Mr. Wah said:
I was upset to see him keep getting hit by the :6::K: after Hitomi's :6::F+P:. You can step the :6::K: and punish her with a :2:_:8::H+P+K::P: before any of her other options come out. Especially when she is using it as a delayed poke.

I look forward to when the game comes out to see players adjust to it. It's understandable why I just kept feeling like I was watching players trying to play it like DOA4 (force tech failures, untechable failures, mix-up, etc.), the demo wasn't really out that long and the UK hasn't had many events together to really get used to the system.
-I agree. The game is still being played like doa4, which it should not considering the new tools that is available. However, there are no vids of how the game should be properly played, and that is not going to happen till months after release.
 

MESSY

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OK OK guys, I know it should have been a clean sweep for me in terms of the London MCM tournament. I admit the matches didn’t show a lot people’s skills though I still ended up winning. However there are things people need to know:
1. For me the DOA timeline was:
CGS 2008 World final --à Some offline with my fans and other random scrubs -------------à (Boom!) London MCM DOA5a Tournament
I wasn’t playing the game at all before the event. I don’t have a girlfriend who can play Hitomi competitively so we can both spend some time digging the Alpha Demo rather than doing some other activities! Who knows the game would advance to such an attractive thing like the E3 build!

2. The lifebar settings
We didn’t even know there was gonna be a tournament! It was not very well organised at all. We’ve been told the tournament settings were 2 rounds, normal life, single elimination. Obviously we put up a fight because anything would be better than that!

3. The tournament
Just because people don’t post does not mean they don’t exist. The tournament had 32 people (E3 has 64) and some players who came late didn’t have the chance to compete! Again this is because it was badly organised. So the DOA scene in the UK is not as small as some people think. (We sure have more players here than France!) and a lot of them are quite friendly I had a really good time at that event btw. They just don’t have much to post on the forums.
I’ve been watching the E3 videos and from what I’ve seen in both events I have to say the amount of scrubs attending both tournaments were probably the same, though I do like the dynamic atmosphere in E3. I would like to compete in such environment where a number of players are pro or former pro players.


So players do tend to try stuff in the tournament (both London and E3) and it takes time to get used to the game especially when it’s such an early build of the game, you don’t want to get into any bad habits if there are further tweaks of the game which could affect the way of playing very very much. I’m purely saying this from a player’s point of view. I like playing DOA competitively but not all that into being a DOA scientist. Btw the E3 build has advanced a lot and now DOA5 is much more attractive!
However, it’s time to show your way of playing DOA! For me next time it won’t be such an embarrassing win in a tournament I can assure people of that.
 

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Messy,

First, good to see you again.
Second, I wouldn't take anyone's criticism here to heart. The game is bound to change and the tournament was merely marketing.

The point is that you had fun meeting up with friends at a local event and had the chance to play the game. I look forward to seeing the uk scene grow.
 

Hurricane Rev

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wow, I've just seen this thread just now and I am kinda annoyed by these comments in this thread to be fully honest

Firstly guys, the game isn't out yet. So why are you expecting some top level play?? I said this before and I will say it again. The purpose of that tournament is to try and get people into this game, just to show them what the game is about. This wasn't suppose to be a top level tournament/event. I have been watching the DOA5 stream at E3 and to be honest with you guys, I haven't seen anything better. That tournament was properly on the same kind of level that the tournament at London Expo was at. I have seen a lot of pauses through out the event (Heck, there was hardly or none pauses in the DOA5 tournament at London Expo). So you guys have NO RIGHT to tell us that the tournament at London Expo was pitiful, after how the tournament was like at E3.

Secondly, I don't play DOA5 (Or any other DOAs) with someone that I know that plays the game. I usually play it by facing the computers (Which is not good at all) because I haven't got no one. Also before the event, I was busy with doing some work for college and I didn't really have the time to practise in the game. So yeah, I probably wasn't very good during that day and there are many better players than me. But if there are some players who thinks that I am crap, then I'm crap.

At the end of the day, My aims is to not only try and be a good player at this game but to try and create a very strong scene/community in the UK. I believe that is the most important thing in order for me (or anyone else). But to be honest with you guys, I couldn't care less about what you think of me. If I am rubbish, I'm rubbsh. All I really care about is support the UK DOA scene!
 

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Rev,

First of all, the comments came out before E3.

Second of all, read what I said to messy on what you should be focusing on instead of the critique of players who weren't there playing a game that is unfinished.

My comments were on general play, and honestly I have the same comments on most of the players in the e3 build. It's to be expected that players aren't playing DOA5 to it's maximum potential. I would be worried if they already were able to in the span of 3 months.

Keep focus on what you need to do to get the community rolling.
 

FakeSypha

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At the end of the day, My aims is to not only try and be a good player at this game but to try and create a very strong scene/community in the UK. I believe that is the most important thing in order for me (or anyone else). But to be honest with you guys, I couldn't care less about what you think of me. If I am rubbish, I'm rubbsh. All I really care about is support the UK DOA scene!

That's the way, man. Hope your local scene grows big! and kudos to you and for your efforts :D
 

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This wasn't suppose to be a top level tournament/event. I have been watching the DOA5 stream at E3 and to be honest with you guys, I haven't seen anything better.
Neither "tournament" was really a tournament, which is why I wish they would stop calling them that and giving people in the fighting game community false impressions about the level of play in the actual DOA community.
 

MESSY

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For future reference, do not change your font color to black or white. Just use what's default when you type your post.

I was typing in my office so the text was copied from a word document as I didn’t wanna show people a fancy web forum interface. They thought I was passionately typing a report about Mortgage-backed securities.
 

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Sounds like you need to show them some fighting entertainment there messy ;)

I've removed the color code from your post.
 
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