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Who do you want to be playable

  • Raidou

    Votes: 37 32.7%
  • Genra

    Votes: 18 15.9%
  • Bankotsubo

    Votes: 15 13.3%
  • Shiden

    Votes: 7 6.2%
  • Donovan

    Votes: 18 15.9%
  • Nikki

    Votes: 19 16.8%
  • Irene

    Votes: 38 33.6%
  • Rio

    Votes: 15 13.3%
  • Yaiba

    Votes: 16 14.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 64 56.6%

  • Total voters
    113
  • Poll closed .

Kronin

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Just for ending my answer to Argentus:

Still cute to me. Hell even more so. Whats that from?

The work of Mounty Oum is "Haloid", here you can see a video (wrongly getting in the title "Master Chief", or maybe a purposefully choice for preserving the surprise):


Not having a visual reference for Nicole, usually the fans of the character use this representation as unofficial appearence.

Personally my favourite female warrior in a futuristic armor remain the Samus Aran fan art by Ivan Flores (user "transfuese" on DA) using as visual appearence the resemblancre of the Brazilian model Roberta Murgo.

samusrealident.jpg

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Brute

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Not at all no. Rachel is literally a completely different character. they don't even have similar play styles.
For the millionth time, I'm going to break this down. And this will be the last time. And anyone dense enough still not to understand this concept is an intellectual failure.

There are two aspects of this: character and gameplay.
Character: Yes, Racel's a different character from Nicole. Nyo is also a different character from Bankotsubo. They share some similarities, such as being ridiculous and saying some nonsensical things. Rachel and Spartan share similarities as well, such as being rather arrogant and confident in their abilities and demonstrating a clear superiority complex with a clear sense of duty and loyalty to their mission. Not the same, but having shared elements in terms of the general idea (DOA2 Ryu and DOA5 Ryu personality-wise are arguably more different than Rachel and Spartan are to one another, but that's an issue for a different day).
Gameplay: Rachel and Nicole share many similar moves. Not all, but many. How these come together and function to contribute to the character's gameplan is notably different, yes. But this difference is no more severe than same-character iterations. Hayabusa functions far differently in 5U than he did in DOA3. He gained some moves, lost some moves, and also shares many similar ones through both games. But how these come together and function to contribute to the character's gameplan, once again, is notably different. So to say that gameplay-wise you need Spartan back would be to say that you need DOA3 Ryu back. And no one makes that argument because they realize that modern Ryu is an imperfect evolution of DOA3 Ryu, gaining and losing some things. This is similar to how Nyo is an imperfect evolution of Bankotsubo and Rachel is an imperfect evolution of Spartan.

So, the gameplay argument is stupid and anyone still making that is horribly lost. At best you're looking at a "I need my guest character's personality back," argument, which is notable for a few reasons:

1) Nicole's personality was so one-dimensional it's hard to map without using a ruler.
2) Rachel embodies enough of the general idea to have a comparable evolution in this regard as Nyo to Banko, and is a hell of a lot more similar to Nicole in this sense than P4 is to Kasumi Alpha.

So when you say: "I like discussing what she could be like if they revamped her into a 'new' character like they did with phase 4, Nyo and raidou lol."
and I say: "They already did," there is no absolutely no possible way you can rhetorically argue back and retain any semblance of a point that doesn't contradict what you had just stated moments prior.

On the topic of the new character: "biggest" could mean biggest breasts or biggest height or biggest weight. Any of them could be notable or completely un-noteworthy depending on the degree by which she's "bigger" in the respective element than the runner-up. It's not much to go by and hardly something I'd be focusing on.
 

Kronin

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I could be wrong but I simply believe that TN planned for the second character someone opposite for the most to the other new addition: being Raidou presumably an heavyweight, I would think that the female will be a light character, more fast than strong.
 

Brute

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I could be wrong but I simply believe that TN planned for the second character someone opposite for the most to the other new addition: being Raidou presumably an heavyweight, I would think that the female will be a light character, more fast than strong.
If I were to guess, I'd say her hit speeds will be 10/12/14. But that's based purely on speculation and past trends not not on any concrete evidence.
 

Jyakotu

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At this point, saying "biggest" could make Nicole a contender to return. But, yeah, pretty sure she was exclusive for Xbox and won't be coming back. Besides, I'd rather they introduce a BRAND NEW female character with a completely new fighting style like Marie Rose. So far, only Marie Rose has introduced a brand new fighting style in DOA5U. Phase 4 is just teleport happy Kasumi, Nyotengu is VERY similar to Tengu, and Raidou is the Dural of DOA. We need another new fighting style to keep things fresh. I think that's part of the reason why Marie Rose is so popular: she's cute and brings something new to DOA5U. We need another character that does that.
 

Aerospark

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I don't think Nicole has a shot to return because of Copyright reasons, and they said "Brand new" and "From scratch" so that also rules Nicole out as a possible returning character.
 

Rikuto

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I am hoping "biggest" is literal, and the reveal ends up being Genra's successor.

The ESRB rating description mentioned the use of swords, magic and throwing weapons during actual gameplay. Fireballs from Hayabusa and Raidou covers the use of magic, but that still leaves swords and throwing weapons.

Genra was known for being big to the point you couldn't even throw him in DOA 3, and had his sword actually usable. He also had a ridiculous amount of projectile attacks. Were a new female character to take up his movelist, she would certainly have to be ridiculously big (and indeed the biggest female), need to use a sword, and have projectile attacks. It is not a stretch to say they could give her some kind of throwing weapon as well. It fits into the projectile zoner play style and fits in well with the theme of having the one character who just sorta shits on what the game is supposed to be for everyone else.
 

Tempest

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I am hoping "biggest" is literal, and the reveal ends up being Genra's successor.

The ESRB rating description mentioned the use of swords, magic and throwing weapons during actual gameplay. Fireballs from Hayabusa and Raidou covers the use of magic, but that still leaves swords and throwing weapons.

Genra was known for being big to the point you couldn't even throw him in DOA 3, and had his sword actually usable. He also had a ridiculous amount of projectile attacks. Were a new female character to take up his movelist, she would certainly have to be ridiculously big (and indeed the biggest female), need to use a sword, and have projectile attacks. It is not a stretch to say they could give her some kind of throwing weapon as well. It fits into the projectile zoner play style and fits in well with the theme of having the one character who just sorta shits on what the game is supposed to be for everyone else.
I hope not. I'd like to see a new moveset instead of another gender-bender like Nyotengu.
 

Brute

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The ESRB rating description mentioned the use of swords, magic and throwing weapons during actual gameplay. Fireballs from Hayabusa and Raidou covers the use of magic, but that still leaves swords and throwing weapons.
I know a lot of people like to forget about it, but the story mode from vanilla is returning in LR and would would account for the swords and throwing weapons which are featured prominently in the game's cinematics.
 

RoboJoe

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The ESRB description is identical for all three versions of doa5 barring one added line in vanilla doa5's description. There will be no genderbent Genras anytime soon.

Here's what we currently know about the new female:

-Hair colour isn't black
-Is the "biggest"
-Showcases the new titty engine

The last two descriptors pretty much imply that the new girl will be doa's resident titty monster and judging by the other doa characters' simple and token designs; if I had to guess, I would say the new character will be the token milf, if only because I've witnessed it is a common trope in Japanese media for the token older woman to have the biggest breasts.
 

Goarmagon

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I don't really care who or what she is or looks like. I just hope she has a cool fighting style that kinda looks realistic and convincing. I was so disappointed when I saw Marie Rose fight because I really wanted to see her use a realistic version of systema so I could make "Metal Gear Loli" jokes.

EDIT: If I was TN I would actually give Raidou some of Genra's more sensible moves to make him a bit more complete. I just hope that he doesn't suck because that would be a total waste.
 
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Dacthunder

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I know a lot of people like to forget about it, but the story mode from vanilla is returning in LR and would would account for the swords and throwing weapons which are featured prominently in the game's cinematics.
That's what I was about to say, there's your throwing weapons covered right there...
 

Argentus

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At this point, saying "biggest" could make Nicole a contender to return. But, yeah, pretty sure she was exclusive for Xbox and won't be coming back. Besides, I'd rather they introduce a BRAND NEW female character with a completely new fighting style like Marie Rose. So far, only Marie Rose has introduced a brand new fighting style in DOA5U. Phase 4 is just teleport happy Kasumi, Nyotengu is VERY similar to Tengu, and Raidou is the Dural of DOA. We need another new fighting style to keep things fresh. I think that's part of the reason why Marie Rose is so popular: she's cute and brings something new to DOA5U. We need another character that does that.

I know I was just daydreaming about finally having a dlc character I would give a shit about...

On Marie rose...its honestly 99% because japan loves lolis. She's barely been around a year and she's already rivaling the ninjas in sheer Japanese fan art. Most doa image searches are ruined now because loli porn lol.

m already aware that this new female is gonna be a disappointment like the last 5 dlc characters so I was just going back thinking about Nicole when they said "biggest". As I said before I'm aware it will never happen, because why make a sensible decision when you can titties?
 

EMPEROR_COW

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Rikuto said:
I am hoping "biggest" is literal, and the reveal ends up being Genra's successor.

The ESRB rating description mentioned the use of swords, magic and throwing weapons during actual gameplay. Fireballs from Hayabusa and Raidou covers the use of magic, but that still leaves swords and throwing weapons.

Genra was known for being big to the point you couldn't even throw him in DOA 3, and had his sword actually usable. He also had a ridiculous amount of projectile attacks. Were a new female character to take up his movelist, she would certainly have to be ridiculously big (and indeed the biggest female), need to use a sword, and have projectile attacks. It is not a stretch to say they could give her some kind of throwing weapon as well. It fits into the projectile zoner play style and fits in well with the theme of having the one character who just sorta shits on what the game is supposed to be for everyone else.

Unfortunately biggest is for tits..

As for throwing weapons.. jann lee threw his nunchucks at kokoro in story mode. >__>
 

David Gregg

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If I was TN I would actually give Raidou some of Genra's more sensible moves to make him a bit more complete.

I wish so too however from the standpoint of the tyrant stance (the most notable aspect of Genra's fighting style) it looks like this won't be the case. 4P+K is Genra's transition into the stance and based off vids I'm assuming that input is Raidou's projectile. Raidou was a very basic character ( at least until you run into his throws with one of them being 100 in damage in DOAD iirc) however given the change in mechanics in 5 especially with combo potential who knows.

They may possibly be saving some of Genra's moveset for Donovan (who still has his mask ;)) and are waiting for 6 to introduce the main villain.
 
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Kronin

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By the way people remember that we willl see with high chance DLC characters even for Last Round, so there is always a possibility for Genra or a substitute of him before DoA6 (even if I admit not very likely, but after all who was expecting Raidou before the first hints about him from TN? The hope is always the last to die).
 
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