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Characters Nyotengu changes/gameplay discussion
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Awesome! She has a white palette swap of her default with white wings. This is looking to be my main outfit so far.
@ 0:38! @Codemaster92163, it's back!
@5:40, 3T no longer leads to a juggle. I kind of figured after I saw from the frame data that they buffed it from 30 damage to 44. Though I did notice that she briefly flies after it now, so maybe she can swoop into a ground throw if the opponent just sits there.
She also flies while free stepping.
Xhominid The Demon Within
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That was pretty obvious to me the second I tried to play Marie Rose and got a rude awakening not being able to adapt to her at all like I did to Momiji and Helena(Kasumi is more of not finding the right openers than anything else). The absolute maybe 2-3 times I've played Tengu he does seem pretty freaking complicated(but I can't remember shit so I'm definitely speaking out of nothing about him) so virtually, she is a new character to me and I'll treat as such.
He wasn't all that complicated aside from being terrible. The difficulty in playing him arose from the fact that you never, at any point in time, had any good tools to rely on. And overcoming that was a very steep obstacle that necessitated good mind games.
SilverForte
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Tengu had a good low throw, that's about it. And a +21 GB, but with tengu's moveset, it didn't mean much.
Xhominid The Demon Within
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So...he was complete shit on all levels in DOA4 then? And considering me watching this entire thread, she is basically a massive buff to his entire moveset overall?
SilverForte
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Basically, he was absolute garbage.
I believe her frame data mentioned a 9PT, but you never know. They could have made it a different animation. After all, they replaced the 41236T version of it.
I can't tell if she's saying anything during 9PT though. It'd be lame if she doesn't laugh manically like Bankotsubo did.
This. And the divebomb was essentially the only thing that made him even remotely playable and then they had the bright idea of taking it away in DOAD.
Yes. I doubt she could do well against a fast character, or someone like Helena, Rachel, etc. But she is definitely better than DOA4 Tengu. Take that as you will.
SilverForte
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I think her having a reset throw into stun will be a game changer at least.
Correct.
Xhominid The Demon Within
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I basically play Momiji with Helena on the side(I still gotta get serious with Kasumi, gotta start watch videos of how to open up opponents to combos effectively) so playing a slow character is actually the best thing for me(My Helena isn't actually suffering, but sometimes miss inputs both online and off because of how slow I can be at times).
NyouTengu can definitely fit my style pretty well(unlike Marie Rose in a way, but that's mainly because she's pretty bad in actually being good in places) which is still funny since the main thing that held me back is Bankotsubo looking SO. DAMN. BORING.(It's funny how throughout my entire DOA lifetime, I cannot for the life of me remember more of his moves before she showed up compared to everyone else's)
P.S. That wasn't a dig at anything in particular nor is it meant to start fights, it's pretty much how I always seen him and the main reason I never bothered touching him.
I knew Tengu very well because of the glory days of DOA2U, and Subway was one of the regulars I'd face. Somewhat in DOA4 as well. Many characters like Lisa I hated in DOA4. But DOA5 made some really fun changes to characters. I'm confident Nyotengu will be very fun to play, at least. So far she's got the same treatment. DOA4 move set, with DOA5 tools upgraded.
Xhominid The Demon Within
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Considering Rachel adopted Nicole's moveset and made it pretty damn good, I have nothing saying they would have any issues with that.
SilverForte
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Spartan was top tier to begin with though.
Pffffft
Fucking nobody was top tier but Ryu when Hayabusa was in da house. He raised the roof and then blew it the fuck up.
Spartan didn't have shit on DOA4 Ryu.