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Awesmic

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what a Plot Twist :O
If you think that's something, you should hear about the baby mixup story between Tina and Christie. Their first names are shared, after all...

Bass was raising the wrong kid. Christie could've been that motorsports enthusiast working alongside Bass. She could've been a REAL biker chick. Meanwhile, Tina could've been raised by the evil empire that is MIST as an assassin, realized she was a half-Esper, and played a far more involving role in the main storyline... then people would've been like, "Fuck the ninjas, we got a half-Esper with big dreams!"
 

Chapstick

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Isn't Kasumi's whole character being a rebel ninja who ran away?!
She had to run away or her family would kill her. I supposed she "rebelled" when she broke the shinobi code by leaving to get revenge for her brother, but she wanted to come back.
I do believe its

Phase 1: Kasumi alpha (doa2hardcore is the only one i've played with her in it besides DoAD)
Phase 2: Ein
Phase 3: Alpha-152
Phase 4: Phase 4
Kasumi Alpha kidnapped Hayate for Project Epsilon. So, she came first.
 

Yurlungur

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I do believe its

Phase 1: Kasumi alpha (doa2hardcore is the only one i've played with her in it besides DoAD)
Phase 2: Ein
Phase 3: Alpha-152
Phase 4: Phase 4



i do think that Ein was in the first DoA so he might be the Phase 1 but w/e

Phase 3 is genra but you're right about ein techincally being phase 1
 

Xhominid The Demon Within

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That's impossible, Kasumi Alpha snuck into the ninja village and swept Hayate up to bring him to DOATEC or whatever, then they did the Epsilon thing to him

I think Ein WAS Phase 1, or the attempt and failure of it. Phase 2 is Kasumi Alpha(when they knew Kasumi had greater potential than Hayate), Phase 3 is Kasumi Alpha injected with extra dimensional energy and Phase 4 is more likely the False Kasumi clone we've seen in DOA5(Not just the eponymous Phase 4 herself)
 

werewolfgold

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The problem is we know they aren't.
(citation needed)

I usually get confused over how they are stated in a localization sense. Like sometimes, I would see Sesshomaru from Inuyasha be called Sesshoumaru from time to time and I would also see Nyo be stated as Nyou as well, so I went with the latter.
I can help with this. The difference is that in Japanese, there are instances where long vowels exist. Many times in English, it ends up simplified because it looks better and becomes easier to pronounce for an English speaker. "Sesshoumaru" (せっしょうまる) technically has a long "o" sound in the middle. There are no long "o" sounds in Nyotengu (にょてんぐ).

I'll explain. In Japanese, there are two types of long "o" sounds, "ou" (おう) and "oo" (おお).

For instance, "Tokyo" is technically spelled in Japanese as "Toukyou" (とうきょう). The city Osaka is actually "Oosaka" (おおさか). This can be a thing for English speakers because we already have designated sounds for "oo", none of which sound like simply "o". "Ou" can also have some wonky pronunciations that aren't "o". So, sometimes, people just nix the extra letter to begin with (like "Sesshomaru" or "Osaka") so there's no confusion on how it's supposed to be pronounced. Sometimes, "oh" is even used for long "o"s (like "Kohryu" from Bloody Roar). Finally, sometimes people use a macron to indicate that it's a long vowel ("Sesshōmaru"). But, those last two don't help in telling you which long vowel it is (nor does cutting the extra letter).

Yes
, this can get kind of confusing if you try to look up the word in Japanese or even try to type out the word on a keyboard if you don't know which long "o" sound it's supposed to be (or even if it's supposed to be a long vowel at all). "Tookyoo" is not a thing, for example. You can't look up or type that and have it turn out well. You actually can't even type out "Tokyo", what basically is ubiquitous for Westerners, in Japanese characters and have it turn out well.

TL;DR:
The reason you sometimes see "Sesshoumaru" is because the middle part is technically a long vowel. "Nyotengu" has no long vowels. There is no world where adding a "u" after the "o" in Nyotengu would be correct, while it IS okay for Sesshoumaru. For more info, read the rest of the post.
 
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Nuke-Nin

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can we all f-ing agree that phase 4 is phase 4 and move onto non-ninja characters unless it's ryu or some oc named Izuna who does Garland flower throws because why not and he'll be phase 5
 

Forlorn Penguin

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(citation needed)


I can help with this. The difference is that in Japanese, there are instances where long vowels exist. Many times in English, it ends up simplified because it looks better and becomes easier to pronounce for an English speaker. "Sesshoumaru" (せっしょうまる) technically has a long "o" sound in the middle. There are no long "o" sounds in Nyotengu (にょてんぐ).

I'll explain. In Japanese, there are two types of long "o" sounds, "ou" (おう) and "oo" (おお).

For instance, "Tokyo" is technically spelled in Japanese as "Toukyou" (とうきょう). The city Osaka is actually "Oosaka" (おおさか). This can be a thing for English speakers because we already have designated sounds for "oo", none of which sound like "oh". "Ou" can also have some wonky pronunciations that aren't "oh". So, sometimes, people just nix the extra letter to begin with (like "Sesshomaru" or "Osaka") so there's no confusion on how it's supposed to be pronounced. Sometimes, "h" is even used (like "Kohryu" from Bloody Roar). Finally, sometimes people use a macron to indicate that it's a long vowel ("Sesshōmaru"). But, those last two don't help in telling you which long vowel it is (nor does cutting the extra letter).

Yes
, this can get kind of confusing if you try to look up the word in Japanese or even try to type out the word on a keyboard if you don't know which long "o" sound it's supposed to be (or even if it's supposed to be a long vowel at all). "Tookyoo" is not a thing, for example. You can't look up or type that and have it turn out well. You actually can't even type out "Tokyo", what basically is ubiquitous for Westerners, in Japanese characters and have it turn out well.

TL;DR:
The reason you sometimes see "Sesshoumaru" is because the middle part is technically a long vowel. "Nyotengu" has no long vowels. There is no world where adding the "u" after the "o" in Nyotengu would be correct, while it IS okay for Sesshoumaru. For more info, read the rest of the post.

Speaking of all this "ou" "o" stuff, I'm assuming that Bankotsubo and Nyotengu's fighting style is actually spelled "Tengu-dou" and not the in-game "Tengu-do." It seems that it would be and you even spelled it Tengu-dou when you translated my videos.
 

werewolfgold

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can we all f-ing agree that phase 4 is phase 4 and move onto non-ninja characters unless it's ryu or some oc named Izuna who does Garland flower throws because why not and he'll be phase 5
...What?

Speaking of all this "ou" "o" stuff, I'm assuming that Bankotsubo and Nyotengu's fighting style is actually spelled "Tengu-dou" and not the in-game "Tengu-do." It seems that it would be and you also spelled it Tengu-dou when you translated my videos.
That is correct. (てんぐどう)
 

Chapstick

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I think Ein WAS Phase 1, or the attempt and failure of it. Phase 2 is Kasumi Alpha(when they knew Kasumi had greater potential than Hayate), Phase 3 is Kasumi Alpha injected with extra dimensional energy and Phase 4 is more likely the False Kasumi clone we've seen in DOA5(Not just the eponymous Phase 4 herself)
How is Project Epsilon Phase 1 if it happened after Kasumi Alpha was already created?

The false Kasumi clone in the story died, killed by Hayate and Ayane halfway through.

I think the phases go by just Kasumi-related clones. Kasumi Alpha (Phase 1), Alpha 152 (Phase 2), shapeshifter at the end of 5 (Phase 3), and Phase 4. Otherwise Phase 4 would be Phase 6 or higher.
 

Nuke-Nin

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How is Project Epsilon Phase 1 if it happened after Kasumi Alpha was already created?

The false Kasumi clone in the story died, killed by Hayate and Ayane halfway through.

I think the phases go by just Kasumi-related clones. Kasumi Alpha (Phase 1), Alpha 152 (Phase 2), shapeshifter at the end of 5 (Phase 3), and Phase 4. Otherwise Phase 4 would be Phase 6 or higher.
now do calculations based on Phase 1 and then dead fantasy and then the normal doa story line >:3
 
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