I actually use that setup quite often to be honest. Since forced tech is kinda gone i do that sometimes just to cause some confusion. Otherwise i do 9P if they try wake up kicks and punish with BT 6P. If they catch up to that and start just staying on the ground waiting for me to do 9P i force tech them with 9K and from that point i start mixing all these things up. Worked quite well so far though.
to me, 9P is gimmicky. 9P+K is great for getting a backturn combo. But if a good player just techs it, then it's fairly useless. I can't really see those being useful in high level play. Nice for putting yourself away from danger zones and cliffhangers.
Personally, a lot. But I only do it after a stun, and usually cancel it into another string. Whether I follow up withHow often do you guys use strings like
is a 50/50.
What other options have you found that are effective? I feel comfortable enough with her now to start mixing in moves that utilizePersonally, a lot. But I only do it after a stun, and usually cancel it into another string. Whether I follow up with
She has better options than that string, really. But it's nice for her mix up. She's predictable as it is, so I like moves like that where the opponent won't hold it often. All highs is nice, since Kasumi trains people into holding her mids too much.
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Anything really. I usually cancel, and go with 33K. 8K is good. 66KK is amazing. P+K as well. In DOA4, her 1P was godly.What other options have you found that are effective? I feel comfortable enough with her now to start mixing in moves that utilize
do you do it raw () or are there effective pokes/strings you use to transition into it?
: this move seems really good. It is 7f, and if you can time the follow-up, you get a free BT combo on your opponent.:Link: . This does 82 damage. It seems like a lot of damage for a 7f throw. On lighter characters, you can use to finish for 86 damage instead. With explosive walls this can go up to 106 damage. w! for 112 damage.
, now in DOA5, yeah, I do it raw, but only for spacing. I usually do it with a justCool. So when you use
. Her juggles are especially good with it. After a 33K, you can pop another 
Hi everybody. New player here. I used to play DOAU on Xbox but missed most of DOA4. I'm trying to understand the more technical side of the game now, including frame data and punishment, which I never understood before. Hoping to become a decent competitive player. But right now I'm struggling with various matchups. Any general anti-character knowledge would be much appreciated.
I picked this game up a few days ago and found some nice things in training. I hope these contributions are useful. Sorry if I'm not using the terminology correctly.
The best guaranteed combo I've found is
If you do the throw near a wall, so that you reverse positions and put your opponent next to the wall, you can do
I am not familiar with the game yet so I don't know how other characters fare, but these seem like very good damage for a 7f throw (as a punisher - High counter throws don't add to the damage unfortunately).
My GT is Homicidmus. I'm pretty sure it's all guaranteed but ok I'd be grateful for the chance to be proved wrong. I'm in Europe so it's evening-ish now. What's your GT? I'll come online now
Ok thanks man. Should be fine even really late UK time. Let me know roughly how long (e.g. 3 hours, 5 hours, 8 hours) so I can be online at the appropriate time.
Btw not wanting to start off with an argument, I try to avoid them as much as possible on forums, but I'm fairly sure I know exactly how to check what is and isn't guaranteed. However, if you find different regarding the 66T throw combos, then ok I apologise.
Ah ok you're right. Sorry dude. I tested. You can duck the
. Ah well., :Link: :Link: . This gives decent damage and a mixup for a CB combo. And if your opponent can slow escape quickly enough, you actually get even more damage, because the damage resets after the Back Turned recovery.
How often do you guys use strings like
Ah ok you're right. Sorry dude. I tested. You can duck the
The second combo I came up with was
I also found a CB combo for 245 damage, using this same BT mechanism, though you need to be on the Depth level (with the massive Power Blow explosion combo thingie) for it to work. Hope this is actually viable! (Though of course not guaranteed until the Critical Burst).
:Link:. I forget how much damage it does though. Works on light and medium weights. Another combo is :Link:. It works against the light weights. And :Link: for medium weights. Both do less damage but they look pretty lol. You may still be able to pull it off though. If you're opponent ducks, then they'll take more damage if you do the so they may not duck anymore. And if they try to break the throw, they may not react in time to duck. You can get all these combos against opponent if use . The opponent has to be in normal state and not in critical state because they may fall out before the launch. Fastest stagger escape will let them escape but I don't think most people will be able to do that. I believe it's un-escapable if you're in the right stance.
You can get all these combos against opponent if use
is guaranteed after . The really nice thing is, if they do manage a fastest stagger escape, the combo counter is reset, but they still take the damage. This is good because the Critical Stun value goes back to 0, so you can still do another 28 points of damage (more if hi/-counter) before they fall. If you want a quick Critical Burst then it's not so useful, but like you said, many players may not manage to recover quickly enough anyway. (Hoshinpo), as a way to get in with Kasumi? She doesn't have a lot of ranged moves in general, so it's kind of hard to get in on opponents who distance themselves from her, but today I found this move was quite effective against players who try to space Kasumi. It's also safe on block (-7).
Yep, it's very long range and pretty fast for the range. It doesn't do much damage though, and is also very negative on hit. It's very nice on counter hit though.Anyone use
and or . They don't lead to much damage though. Generally it seems better if you can force a whiff and then go for a punish or mixup.