What are you hoping for a DOA5U Lisa

[Tones]

I don't think they are nerfs. All round the launching and stuns look funny. With a few months until the games release they would still be ironing out some things. They would of put much much more more moremoremoremore very very very a lot a lot more effort into ironing out the new characters and the Ninjas then they would of Lisa, or Tina or say someone else who doesn't mater like Eliot.

But you can see where they want to go with certain attacks.

Unless 1k doesn't give frame advantage on hit anymore, I'd consider that a buff since it doesn't distance them. 236p+h anyone?

 

[ailingeternity]

8K just looks as if it has a new launch animation, it may have an effect on her juggling potential however. 1K could have some better CH properties as a stand alone move but look at 1KK, it's much faster now, maybe that could be a follow-up combo. 66PP limbo stun is still there.

 

[synce]

Confirmed DOA5U nerfs:

1P is now i18
1K now puts you at -5
9K no longer sit down on NH

Some of her grabs had damage buffed

No more Lisa for me

 

[FlamingMuffin]

Those are awful nerfs. She better have more buffs than a increased Deja Vu.

 

[Tones]

Where did you get that information?

 

[UncleKitchener]

Dear Lisa,


Eat a dick.


Love,

Kitch.

 

[Omegan Eckhart]

Confirmed DOA5U nerfs:

1P is now i18
1K now puts you at -5
9K no longer sit down on NH

Some of her grabs had damage buffed

No more Lisa for me

Those are awful nerfs. She better have more buffs than a increased Deja Vu.

1P goes right underneath high's and a lot of mid's, it being i18 won't matter seeing as it crushes before the attack connects. You guys are lucky they didn't take away it's ability to crush mid's, that would have been a worse nerf.

1K being -5 on NH isn't a huge deal seeing as you usually end up landing it on CH, even so it has follow ups that have to be respected regardless.

9K not causing sit down on NH? Again is this a massive deal? It can still be used to guarantee CB and works great against lows. It's -3 on block and has a mid follow up that leaves her at +3 with tons of space which is great for her.

She is still stupidly good even with these nerfs. Jumping ship on her just cause of this seems totally unnecessary.

 

[FlamingMuffin]

Oh I'm still going to use her. I just can't condone nerfs of any kind. I prefer the buffing of weaker characters. 1P being slower is 'fine'.

I'm more sad about the loss of 1K, as apparently it's also nerfed on CH (watching one of the new videos).

 

[synce]

In case anyone didn't catch it today, Lisa has a new long-range OH from BT where she rolls back and sits on opponent's face

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

In case anyone didn't catch it today, Lisa has a new long-range OH from BT where she rolls back and sits on opponent's face

A new move? Thats great. I must see this. Any link?

 

[akhi216]

In case anyone didn't catch it today, Lisa has a new long-range OH from BT where she rolls back and sits on opponent's face

I am in love. I can stomach her nerfs now.

 

[synce]

lol I know right

Can't upload the video but here have this gif

 

[KwonJigglypuff]

Its a bit glitch, but thanks. Is she back rolling like Ayane or is it me? I love it. Looks tricky and fun. Lisa now has more butt attacks than Tina and Princess Peach.

 

[synce]

Yes it's kind of like Ayane's OH from DOA4, although not as scary since Lisa has no roll mixup, the roll is only part of the OH. Who knows though, maybe in the final version she can simply roll around

Also forgot to mention that a half finished deja vu now does 96 on HCH (previously 90). And her H+K wakeup doesn't stun anymore

 

[AkaShocka]

I would like to to able to go into her back-turned stance out of 4kk. Like her 236k4. But I don't really need it, I would just like to have it. It would be great to do 2kk4, BT 7p, 236k. I always wanted do that setup, but I can't.

 

[akhi216]

It looks like Lisa has gained a 9K to body splash canned move at 3:15...

...or was it a BT cancel?

Edit: NVM, I forgot she could do that in vanilla.

 

[synce]

Haha WTF Rachel has a booty bump OH? That's three girls that fight with their ass now

 

[akhi216]

Haha WTF Rachel has a booty bump OH? That's three girls that fight with their ass now

It is said that if you have it, flaunt it.

 

[DR2K]

If anyone else noticed she had her F+K follow up from wake up back.

Don't know why it was removed last patch.

She also has a new quick punch follow up from her useless string, don't know if it was there before since I deem that useless. (you guys know which one it is, the super long one for no reason)

 

[synce]

Lisa really got shafted in 5U... Tina's doing like 120-130 off unbreakable HC throws (both low and high) but Lisa's best isn't even close. Also you can't do that certain juggle off the low OH anymore or off PL for that matter. A good bit of nerfs and I'm not seeing any real buffs other than that butt slam OH, and yes it's actually called butt slam.

Edit: Her H+K setup is now blockable even without SE