DOA5LR Why Are the Majority of Players So Salty?

This game is in truth probably the only 3D fighter that I really have a decent amount of experience with. But the community, especially online seems incredibly childish, and hateful. I mostly have a 2D fighting game background.

I've noticed a big difference in the community in DOA. About 75% of players you come across get incredibly salty about different play styles. The majority, will begin to insult you, send you hate mail, bitch and moan the entire time you start playing them. Example of what they will say.

- You spam the same moves
- You run away
- All you do is throw!
- You just keep doing that same thing into that same combo
- You are terrible, learn how to play the game right!

And if they happen to take a round for whatever reason, they will usually start attacking your character repeatedly while they are down in such an angry fashion! lol

This isn't just something I come across every once in a while, it's something I see all the time. Granted I play some Hayate, and Ein a good bit, and they are somewhat iffy up close, and their best tools are in mid range. Usually I play up close with Hitomi, unless they are a Speedster like Kasumi, or Christie. Then I'll most likely start spacing with her 236P, 46P, 236K, 6H+K, and 2P+K.

Now I know there is the occasional salty talk, or hate mail in other fighters, like Street Fighter, UMVC3, GG, Smash, BB, Uniel, KOF, etc. But it just feels ridiculous, to constantly be insulted for trying to play my characters the right way. Feels like the only way people will be happy, is if both players are at point blank range, and throwing out attacks at random and praying.

So what makes the DOA community so salty? Compared to others fighting game series? And how do you explain to someone that with a slower character, I'm not going to be able to effectively rush down someone like Christie and live to tell about it, with someone like Ein.
 

LondonLust

Active Member
I don't think it's really just DOA, I've actually gotten much worse hatemail on MK9 online at a more frequent rate.

Might be because both their netcodes are bad lol.
 
I don't think it's really just DOA, I've actually gotten much worse hatemail on MK9 online at a more frequent rate.

Might be because both their netcodes are bad lol.

MK and Injustice have a lot of salt, I actually didn't include that in the list because of it...lol But the netcode is absolutely terrible, local games only 10 minutes away have enough delay to significantly alter the outcome.
 

LondonLust

Active Member
MK and Injustice have a lot of salt, I actually didn't include that in the list because of it...lol But the netcode is absolutely terrible, local games only 10 minutes away have enough delay to significantly alter the outcome.

Yeah it can be frustrating because sometimes you'll miss a hold that you should have had if there wasn't lag, or you'll drop a big combo. And in heavy lag, it pretty much seems like the faster character always wins lol.
 

synce

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I've noticed the immaturity too. I don't think it's a 3D thing but a DOA thing. People love to hate capos in Tekken but even when I did some braindead crap in TR ranked I wouldn't hear a peep from the other guy... in DOA if you simply pick a character someone disagrees with you're going to hear about it.
 

31gma

Active Member
Salt is bad for you anyway.

I prefer pepper.

Why? It tastes sodium good.

To the OP, you should go to a casual Smash get-together. It gets to the point where people personally insult each other and their dead grandmothers; there's also that one time where someone punched another person just because he timed his shield perfectly and counter-attacks with a Side-A smash attack as it proceeds to turn into a personal scuffle. It's just that desire to win that boils people's blood.

Even I get at the heat of the moment, usually turning my anger to the game's mechanics (i.e. DOA's triangle system and Smash 4's shield buffs that give major frame advantage over smash attacks) It's best to just walk away from the controller and other people until you can get a level-headed perspective.
 

d3v

Well-Known Member
This game is in truth probably the only 3D fighter that I really have a decent amount of experience with. But the community, especially online seems incredibly childish, and hateful. I mostly have a 2D fighting game background.

I've noticed a big difference in the community in DOA. About 75% of players you come across get incredibly salty about different play styles. The majority, will begin to insult you, send you hate mail, bitch and moan the entire time you start playing them. Example of what they will say.

- You spam the same moves
- You run away
- All you do is throw!
- You just keep doing that same thing into that same combo
- You are terrible, learn how to play the game right!

And if they happen to take a round for whatever reason, they will usually start attacking your character repeatedly while they are down in such an angry fashion! lol

This isn't just something I come across every once in a while, it's something I see all the time. Granted I play some Hayate, and Ein a good bit, and they are somewhat iffy up close, and their best tools are in mid range. Usually I play up close with Hitomi, unless they are a Speedster like Kasumi, or Christie. Then I'll most likely start spacing with her 236P, 46P, 236K, 6H+K, and 2P+K.

Now I know there is the occasional salty talk, or hate mail in other fighters, like Street Fighter, UMVC3, GG, Smash, BB, Uniel, KOF, etc. But it just feels ridiculous, to constantly be insulted for trying to play my characters the right way. Feels like the only way people will be happy, is if both players are at point blank range, and throwing out attacks at random and praying.

So what makes the DOA community so salty? Compared to others fighting game series? And how do you explain to someone that with a slower character, I'm not going to be able to effectively rush down someone like Christie and live to tell about it, with someone like Ein.
So I take it you haven't played SFIV or MvC3 online.
 
Why? It tastes sodium good.

To the OP, you should go to a casual Smash get-together. It gets to the point where people personally insult each other and their dead grandmothers; there's also that one time where someone punched another person just because he timed his shield perfectly and counter-attacks with a Side-A smash attack as it proceeds to turn into a personal scuffle. It's just that desire to win that boils people's blood.

Even I get at the heat of the moment, usually turning my anger to the game's mechanics (i.e. DOA's triangle system and Smash 4's shield buffs that give major frame advantage over smash attacks) It's best to just walk away from the controller and other people until you can get a level-headed perspective.

I've actually got a local meet up for Smash every Sunday. I only go occasionally, it usually has about 35+ people show up. I wouldn't say I've seen them really get salty. But I don't particularly care for their community. They feel super elitist. And they can't decide what game they like, Project M, Melee, or Smash 4.
 

31gma

Active Member
I have, the sodium levels are not nearly as high as DOA.

Play Skullgirls as a newcomer, the mechanics of that 2d fighting game will make you saltier than preserved meats before refrigeration was introduced. It's incredibly frustrating to break out of a combo once you trap yourself to a simple poke.
 

Goarmagon

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Standard Donor
Play Guilty Gear XX as a newcomer, the mechanics of that 2d fighting game will make you saltier than preserved meats before refrigeration was introduced. It's incredibly frustrating to break out of a combo once you trap yourself to a simple poke.

Fixed for canonical accuracy. That game's difficulty curve is like satan's cock on cialis and adderal.
 
Play Skullgirls as a newcomer, the mechanics of that 2d fighting game will make you saltier than preserved meats before refrigeration was introduced. It's incredibly frustrating to break out of a combo once you trap yourself to a simple poke.

I actually thought Skullgirls was incredibly easy, but I was that person who played solo Cerabella, heard she's op or something. Wasn't really my favorite fighting game, despite how easy it was to rack up wins.
 

tokiopewpew

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I believe most of them do not really know what exactly they complain about and use therefore generic phrases and words like "cheap" or "Learn how to play" to express their anger of having lost a game. I'm sure everyone knows that losing a lot isn't fun indeed but what most players do not seem to be capable of is trying to analyze why they actually lost. That's why you will rarely hear a complain about a specific (maybe overused) move like "Jann Lee's dragon kick is op!" or "Why do you hide in Helena's BKO so much?" They do not even know what kind of technique, move or strategy has beaten them, which annihilates any eligibility of writing stuff like that.

If you try to get into a conversation with them, you will either just get the usual insults again or experience psn logic (how I like to call it), something like that:

Trigger was that he wrote "cheap P4" in the game chat after some mirror matches:

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His last response was the proof for me that he was not even partially familiar with the game mechanics (beside the fact he also played like that). This and the fact that he did not tried to debate more or get some additional information made me feeling vindicated even more in my actions and that is what I think you guys should just do too when recieiving any kind of hatemail.

The overall amount of players around seems to be very vulnerable when it comes to something that can hurt their pride (in their point of view), which you can see on said hatemail after lost matches and non-existent willingness to aquire new skills by asking questions.
 

d3v

Well-Known Member
I have, the sodium levels are not nearly as high as DOA.
You clearly haven't played enough. I've seen people get death threats over those games.
I actually thought Skullgirls was incredibly easy, but I was that person who played solo Cerabella, heard she's op or something. Wasn't really my favorite fighting game, despite how easy it was to rack up wins.
Try it again against someone with a top tier team with Peacock, Fillia or Fukua and learn why solo-Bella hasn't been viable for some time now.
 
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