Lets be serious here Alpha-152 needs to be banned.

[GodlyHades]

I would be ok with my main being banned from tournaments if she just completely towered above everyone else and if it was relatively easy to abuse her strengths. Alpha has people outclassed in the string manipulation game, the throw damage department, and the offensive department. She gets one stun on you are in a worse position you would be in than other characters. The same can be said for Helena but Helena doesn't have soviet level damage off juggles and grabs nor does she have the speed and options Alpha does in the neutral game. (Half screen damaging offensive holds. 9i jab, quick low stuns etc.) Helena also has clear faults. What are Alpha's faults other than her poor defense? How is her having poor defense a justification for all the options that she has and how easy it is to use them? These are the questions Alpha players need to answer. And don't come in here with "Her CB's get reversed 24 / 7" that's not an argument. If you are doing a terrible job of mixing up your 3 CB options and 150 damage mid level grab and 105 damage low grab that's your own fault.

What is known about her currently is good enough to consider a temporary ban. 5U will determine if it will be followed through or not. Like I said before though TN should look into re-tooling this character so she is on more even ground so her players can use her at tournaments. And lmao. No one cares who uses Alpha online lmao there's nothing at stake online.

You misunderstood me I could care less about online also, I just want the Alpha user(s) to be able to play their main online. Offline casuals and tournaments Alpha-152 should be restricted. But still we should still wait until DAO5U and see how she is everyone might be shocked.

 

[lopedo]

Im not saving Alpha, I have enough common sense to want her removed as well. But what about the players who main her and actually enjoy playing with her? What if they just took away your ''Jan Lee'' like that? Your not just going get rid of an intesntly OP character, your going to remove something precious to players. (The one's that user her)

Just get rid of that hoar in tournaments, let the Alpha players use her online. See how far that goes.

I'd be fine with them taking Jann Lee out of tournaments if he was completely unbalanced to the rest of the roster. Matter of fact, I wouldn't have made him my main is he was because I'd KNOW that he would be taken out eventually. That's not the point.

Your argument is that some people are going to be butthurt because a broken, stupid character would no longer be allowed in tournament play. My counter argument is 1:good and 2: I don't care how many feelings get hurt to balance the game out, as much as possible, for competitive play. From a pure competitive stand point, there is no character that can have a fair match up with her due to the reasons discussed above. From a player being hurt about it, as I said, good. Get good at the GAME, not with a character who defies the logic of the GAME she's in thanks to ignorant development, something TN is known for.

 

[Brute]

You misunderstood me I could care less about online also, I just want the Alpha user(s) to be able to play their main online.

We can't stop people from using her online. Even if the community "bans" her, no code in the game permits us to prevent someone from using a character online, for better or worse. But honestly if we could, I'd consider doing it. Sick of her shit.

 

[GodlyHades]

I'd be fine with them taking Jann Lee out of tournaments if he was completely unbalanced to the rest of the roster. Matter of fact, I wouldn't have made him my main is he was because I'd KNOW that he would be taken out eventually. That's not the point.

Your argument is that some people are going to be butthurt because a broken, stupid character would no longer be allowed in tournament play. My counter argument is 1:good and 2: I don't care how many feelings get hurt to balance the game out, as much as possible, for competitive play. From a pure competitive stand point, there is no character that can have a fair match up with her due to the reasons discussed above. From a player being hurt about it, as I said, good. Get good at the GAME, not with a character who defies the logic of the GAME she's in thanks to ignorant development, something TN is known for.

I have to agree with you. I can't boost my argument over something so stupid. Let's just see how this plays out.

We can't stop people from using her online. Even if the community "bans" her, no code in the game permits us to prevent someone from using a character online, for better or worse. But honestly if we could, I'd consider doing it. Sick of her shit.

Same thing goes to you Brute, I agree. I still feel bad about the people who have been playing with her for years ..

 

[Brute]

Same thing goes to you Brute, I agree. I still feel bad about the people who have been playing with her for years ..

Game hasn't even been out a year. xD

 

[GodlyHades]

Game hasn't even been out a year. xD

Hasn't Alpha been out since the original doa games?

 

[Tenryuga]

Hasn't Alpha been out since the original doa games?

lmao no. If I'm not mistaken she was only playable in DOAD and 5.

 

[Rikuto]

Hasn't Alpha been out since the original doa games?

No. She was first introduced in DOA 4 as a nonplayable Boss character, unless you hacked the game.

She was playable in Dimensions, but nobody played Dimensions. That just leaves her DOA 5 iteration.

There is no one alive who has been playing Alpha "for years" competitively.

 

[GodlyHades]

No. She was first introduced in DOA 4 as a nonplayable Boss character, unless you hacked the game.

She was playable in Dimensions, but nobody played Dimensions. That just leaves her DOA 5 iteration.

There is no one alive who has been playing Alpha "for years" competitively.

My statement falls down, ban that bitch. I have no regards.

 

[SilverForte]

I played Dimensions, but she wasn't as good in that one. No critical bursts, 3 point hold made it rather easy to hold her moves, she didn't have a parry either.

 

[KidArk]

But what about the players who main her and actually enjoy playing with her? What if they just took away your ''Jan Lee'' like that? Your not just going get rid of an intesntly OP character, your going to remove something precious to players.

How many times do i have to tell people I mained Hilde in SC IV and Ice climbers in melee, they were banned from tournaments and people understood it. People even laughed using hilde and knew what they were doing.

What gets me is the fact that Alpha players have the gall as if they don't see anything wrong at all with their character? Heck I use Bayman , that tank roll being able to evade and punish certain strings with a lot of characters, where most characters can't and being able to make my strings safe by covering it with the roll, the force tech 50/50 mix ups near wall , the stupid PB combo of Gen Fu , + 10 12i grab sick resets and 2 guaranteed combos off back turned both which lead to a force tech? I can admit to things being kinda over powered with my characters but no alpha player has even agreed to anything like we're all crazy or something, sheesh.

 

[Kyotos Finest]

Better nerf Irelia.

 

[Omega SYSP]

People like, main and dedicate practice on her... let it happen to ur main and see how you'd like it! I voted NO! While I do admit she is REALLY good, but banning her is a bit extreme.... I'm not a tournament player so what do I know some would say I guess *rolls eyes*

 

[lopedo]

People like, main and dedicate practice on her... let it happen to ur main and see how you'd like it! I voted NO! While I do admit she is REALLY good, but banning her is a bit extreme.... I'm not a tournament player so what do I know some would say I guess *rolls eyes*

Hmm.

 

[KidArk]

Sorry , but this has actually been fun, i only wish people shared data on their characters this well and replied as fast as everyone has been to this Alpha ban i love dust loop for their breakdowns and guides to characters, i wish we can pull it together for ultimate , i'm going to try really hard and get something together at least for the characters I use!

 

[Brute]

Sorry , but this has actually been fun, i only wish people shared data on their characters this well and replied as fast as everyone has been to this Alpha ban i love dust loop for their breakdowns and guides to characters, i wish we can pull it together for ultimate , i'm going to try really hard and get something together at least for the characters I use!

I'm always happy to do that with Ryu, lol

 

[Omega SYSP]

Its whatever lol !

Hmm.

 

[GodlyHades]

Sorry , but this has actually been fun, i only wish people shared data on their characters this well and replied as fast as everyone has been to this Alpha ban i love dust loop for their breakdowns and guides to characters, i wish we can pull it together for ultimate , i'm going to try really hard and get something together at least for the characters I use!

I'm always happy to do that with Ryu, lol

I'd be gladly to help Brute with Ryu since we both have different styles, I'm sure we can distrubute our own ideas into his thread (your future Ryu thread Brute >! Im sure you'll make one lol)

I'll be focusing on Ein too this year, I think everyone's gonna be excited to try out the new characters on the 3rd. Let's see how long this takes before we have pro Momiji's, and Rachel's kicking our ass lol.

 

[lotr9690]

Sorry , but this has actually been fun, i only wish people shared data on their characters this well and replied as fast as everyone has been to this Alpha ban i love dust loop for their breakdowns and guides to characters, i wish we can pull it together for ultimate , i'm going to try really hard and get something together at least for the characters I use!

I agree! Between all of us on the forums we could compile a great list, just by focusing on the characters we main. This topic was DOA team work. Thoughtful arguments with valid points.

 

[KidArk]

I agree! Between all of us on the forums we could compile a great list, just by focusing on the characters we main. This topic was DOA team work. Thoughtful arguments with valid points.

WOAH WOAH WOAH , not all of it xD!!