The DOA5U "Casual" thread. ^__^

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Tyaren

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I wouldn't blame the community (western at least). DOA has been sexualised since the first iteration and as far as I can remember during the release of doa5 I saw no requests on here, doaworld or on twitter to sexualise the characters further. Just take a look at these forums now and you will see 90% of the community is against the blatant sexualisation. If any part of the community was calling out for more sexualisation, I'm guessing it was the Asian community.
My theory is that TN wanted to market doa5 to the casual triple A gamers, but when they realised they weren't going to break that market they thought 'Fuck it, lets just go back to business as usual' and instead claimed that it was the community who wanted the sexualisation back..

To give my two cents to this discussion: Not everything is black or white. There's enough room in between prude on one side and slutty on the other. DOA was always beautiful and sexy and that's good! But do the bikinis really have to get skimpier and skimpier with each new set, to the point, where only the nipples and crotch is covered by gemstones? Do we need OMG setting? Do we need the girls pole dancing? Do we need a Private Paradise-mode, where the girls suggestively spread their legs...?
They could have DOA sexy and tasteful...but that's obviously not what they are going for. And it's not just the consumers' fault. By that logic every game and every film etc. would be pornographic by now. But they're not.The developers can chose what to give us and what not. I too think, they are harming DOA's reputation as a decent fighter with all that sleazy sluttyness.
 

David Gregg

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And it's not just the consumers' fault. By that logic every game and every film etc. would be pornographic by now. But they're not.The developers can chose what to give us and what not. I too think, they are harming DOA's reputation as a decent fighter with all that sleazy sluttyness.

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ninjaguy446

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Leifang had blue hair during DOA1 and also in some versions of DOA2. She had purple hair in some costumes in DOA1.

If they are really going for "realistic", then shouldn't Mila, Christie or Ayane just flaunt their "real" hair color rather than have red highlights, white or purple hair colors?

Why can't Helena have a striking hair color for once? Are they the only ones entitled to sport them off? She already got a bow that looks barely visible in most of 5/5U's dark stages.
Mila's red hair is realistic though... Christie and Ayane already had their hair color before the game got realistic. And even if it had always been realistic, it's fitting of their character. Helena has no reason to dye her hair pink, and in my opinion, that's just stupid. Like, of all people in the whole world, why would Helena dye her hair pink? She's not rebellious. Plus, she has class, fame, and money. She is elegant. Her long blonde hair is elegant, not dyed pink.
 

Rawbietussin

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Dyed red hair isn't unrealistic though. I know 3 girls with dyed red hair, yet I've never met anyone with purple or dyed white hair.

I don't think you get what I am emphasizing at. To me, what he seemed to have implied on his earlier post is that a character with pre-existed colored hair stays permanent as they become "realistic" and that during the transformation from anime style to realism would mean that there shall be no other characters who will have colored hair apart from the ones who had them before in this pool of blondes and brunettes.

It's pretty "realistic" to me, that a tough, rebellious girl gives red streaks to her hair. Also it's realistic, that crazy Zack would dye his hair green or Tina dying her hair from brunette to blonde. What's not realistic: Helena dying her hair pink. It just does not fit her character...like at all!

I think that's somewhat biased. Sure, I get the point that a CEO would be crazy to color her hair that way but that doesn't entitles them to not have a hair color apart from what they have by default. She was an opera singer and hair is part of a costume when performing on stage. If an actor has to dye them, they do it all for the sake of the pulling off a good show.

I may view things differently but I envisioned Helena more as having a regal, ethereal fairy/goddess/mermaid/queen vibe that I can't help think that pink hair would give off a rather enchanting look for her just like Kirsten Dunst in the Marie Antoinette movie. To each their own if you couldn't see the way I do.

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Rawbietussin

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Mila's red hair is realistic though... Christie and Ayane already had their hair color before the game got realistic. And even if it had always been realistic, it's fitting of their character. Helena has no reason to dye her hair pink, and in my opinion, that's just stupid. Like, of all people in the whole world, why would Helena dye her hair pink? She's not rebellious. Plus, she has class, fame, and money. She is elegant. Her long blonde hair is elegant, not dyed pink.

Why must pink hair have to mean or look rebellious to you? When did hair colors had any definition? Not all people with colored hair are labelled as a rebel. I'm sorry but that's just so passé and judgmental.

One can still be as elegant as Helena is with it. Elegance is a feeling that you exude regardless of what your hair color is. You can be a brunette, redhead, silver-haired or whatever your color is and still be classy. Hair color is not a determinant of what's elegant or not.
 
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Rawbietussin

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Helena: Kokoro, since we are now are having our sisterly bonding i would like you do dye my hair a bit brighter
Kokoro: Okay, Helena!!

20 minutes after

Kokoro: Helena, i accidentally put pomegranate juice in the bleach...
Helena: SACRE BLEU!!!

LMAO. To be fair though, Helena (and Eliot lol) has a rather vibrant yellowish blonde hair color than the other blonde girls who seems to have a darker or paler shade.
 

Jyakotu

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If it ain't Code Chronos I will burn everything in sight.
To be fair, you could technically say that Dimensions took inspiration from the canceled Code Chronos project. After all, Dimensions not only sheds light BEFORE the DOA tournaments, but also recounts DOA1-4.
 

UncleKitchener

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I wouldn't blame the community (western at least). DOA has been sexualised since the first iteration and as far as I can remember during the release of doa5 I saw no requests on here, doaworld or on twitter to sexualise the characters further. Just take a look at these forums now and you will see 90% of the community is against the blatant sexualisation. If any part of the community was calling out for more sexualisation, I'm guessing it was the Asian community.
My theory is that TN wanted to market doa5 to the casual triple A gamers, but when they realised they weren't going to break that market they thought 'Fuck it, lets just go back to business as usual' and instead claimed that it was the community who wanted the sexualisation back..

That's an interesting theory but the point still stands.

It's a deterrent in ways to the growth of the game.
 

ninjaguy446

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Why must pink hair have to mean or look rebellious to you? When did hair colors had any definition? Not all people with colored hair are labelled as a rebel. I'm sorry but that's just so passé and judgmental.

One can still be as elegant as Helena is with it. Elegance is a feeling that you exude regardless of what your hair color is. You can be a brunette, redhead, silver-haired or whatever your color is and still be classy. Hair color is not a determinant of what's elegant or not.
It doesn't have to mean she's a rebel, I'm just saying she doesn't have a reason to do it, like Mila or Ayane. Lemme use an example. Imagine if Kasumi dyed her hair green. Why did Kasumi dye her hair green? It's not fitting of her character, it doesn't make sense, and in general, it's just a big why.

From your previous post, you said you imagine Helena kind of like a fairy which is probably where our difference in opinion comes from lol. I don't see Helena like that. At all. That's like me viewing Kasumi as a sea monster which is why I think she should dye her hair green.
 

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whamwham said:
TN Studio:
Hayashi: Okay guys, we need money to make the next game. What's the fastest way to make some $$ so that we can work on new games?
Lackey A: DLCs?
Hayashi: Okay, what kind of DLCs though?
Lackey B: I think we should continue with the Legacy cos...
Hayashi: Okay! Bikinis it is!

-Couple months later-
Hayashi: Okay guys, we made enough money from bikini DLCs to make the next game. What's the fastest way to make some big $$ so that we can make a profit?
Lackey A: New DOA game?
Hayashi: Okay, what kind of DOA game?
Lackey B: I think we should start working on DOA6 becau...
Hayashi: Okay! DOAX3 it is!

In the itagaki days thats how it was.. but i can assure u its different with hayashi
 

Aerospark

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To be fair, you could technically say that Dimensions took inspiration from the canceled Code Chronos project. After all, Dimensions not only sheds light BEFORE the DOA tournaments, but also recounts DOA1-4.
Dimensions is fucking trash will always be trash will never amount to anything but trash that game does not exist to me it basically retconned the ~entire~ series do not speak of that filth.
 
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