IGN Pro League DOA5 Pro Gaming Tournament
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Game Over
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Maybe he just didn't care as much after seeing how some members of the SC community were trying to screw him out of tournaments. Like, IIRC, there were certain tournaments near his area where the info was only known by an inner circle and withheld from the public until the VERY last minute in an attempt to have Rikuto NOT show up.
I can understand how someone can lose motivation seeing some shenanigans like that.
"You hate to see this kind of thing happen." -- Seth Killian
Rikuto
P-P-P-P-P-P-POWER!
i made the mistake of loading up skyrim. then diablo 3 came out. do the math. but yea i had no intention of going to anaheim until e3 popped up, then i was spending what little attention i had researching potential doa setups... scv just got backburned. im cool with the outcome.
Allan Paris
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Well that makes sense. Good shit on everything you did out there.
DrDogg
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This is incorrect. Right now there are only 4 stuns that universally can't be held out of, the two sit down stuns, the stumble back stun, and the Critical Burst stun. You can hold and/or slow escape out of every other stun with a few exceptions here and there. However, you can't hold out of normal frame advantage (guard break, normal hit that doesn't cause a critical stun, etc.).
I tried to teach them all about the sit down stuns and Critical Burst. For the most part they ignored me and played it like DOA4. Kayane and Rikuto were the only exceptions to this. However, by the last day, Manny and Chosen1 had come around and were starting to play more like DOA5.
As grap3 stated, I was away all weekend. However, to clarify, I have you on ignore. So... yeah. Although for the sake of providing additional info, I will try to view the "ignored replies" so I can answer your questions... like I just did.
Also, one of my write-ups (that's taking forver to go live on IGN) is about Christie.
Lei
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On the one day I was there I tried to teach everyone as well. As well as movement now. Like when playing Manny and Swoozie I tried to focus on movement as much as possible and it threw them both off from the games I had with them. Hayabusa has a lot of mid step-able strings and kasumi doesn't have too great of tracking.
On the one day I was there I tried to teach everyone as well. As well as movement now. Like when playing Manny and Swoozie I tried to focus on movement as much as possible and it threw them both off from the games I had with them. Hayabusa has a lot of mid step-able strings and kasumi doesn't have too great of tracking.
Game Over
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It's cool that you clarified this.
What I recalled from from the bits of the E3 event I watched was that stuns that take the opponent off his/her feet could not be held out of (until they return to their feet in the animation?), and I kind of generalized it when replying to GFM (assuming more hold-free stuns would be in the final build). I am aware of the Critical Burst and sit-down stun types specifically being a part of this.
Question: Are lift stuns indeed in the game (as of this build)? I can't recall if I saw any in the midst of watching some of the matches. If so, are you indeed able to hold out of them?
DrDogg
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Movement was better before they made 22_88 into the command sidestep, so I hope they change it back.
Lift stuns are still in the game, but you can counter immediately.
Game Over
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Oh well. I guess it's something that may or may not change come final build.
DrDogg
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I'd have to check. The lift stun is not a universal unholdable stun like the two sit down stuns. However, in some instances you can't counter. Hitomi's 9PK may be one of those instances.
Lei
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Depends on who you ask, I wave dash constantly. Wavedashing and then stepping with p+g+k gives you taunt so you can't wavedash into step. with the 22_88, it gives me the freedom to tech from wavedashing.i personally think 22_88 should stay.
DrDogg
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How are you waving? If you're just doing 33 repeatedly, you'll get the 22 sidestep pretty frequently... which is a problem. It doesn't help that some attacks start with the 33 notation.
Also, some characters have a faster forward dash than wave dash. Did you try going to neutral before using a step out of WD?
I suggested before to return POWERBLOW to what it was .. H+P+K
That way, in tag you get it replaced with TAG until your teammate dies then you get a POWERBLOW ..
Just like how NORMAL THROWS become TAG THROWS till the teammate dies.
In case of SIDESTEPS it stays the same as before,
H+P+K and H+P+K. This will also make VF players feel right at home.
And when the opponent is in an AIR-JUGGLE state, theH+P+K becomes the POUNCE TAG in the same way the game differentiates between GROUND THROW and AIR THROW.
I think this makes things alot more interesting in a sense. Think about it, That way the focus of TAG would be more launch and combo oriented. But when your teammate dies, you get a whole new threat. Its kinda like a comeback mechanic without actually being a comeback mechanic since POWERBLOWS are slow, unsafe and holdable.
Besides, theres really no point for powerblows if theres no dangerzones in tag. The main point of a Powerblow is positioning. And in TAG you can dish out more damage with a tag air juggle than a powerblow anyway!
That way, in tag you get it replaced with TAG until your teammate dies then you get a POWERBLOW ..
Just like how NORMAL THROWS become TAG THROWS till the teammate dies.
In case of SIDESTEPS it stays the same as before,
H+P+K and H+P+K. This will also make VF players feel right at home.And when the opponent is in an AIR-JUGGLE state, the
H+P+K becomes the POUNCE TAG in the same way the game differentiates between GROUND THROW and AIR THROW.I think this makes things alot more interesting in a sense. Think about it, That way the focus of TAG would be more launch and combo oriented. But when your teammate dies, you get a whole new threat. Its kinda like a comeback mechanic without actually being a comeback mechanic since POWERBLOWS are slow, unsafe and holdable.
Besides, theres really no point for powerblows if theres no dangerzones in tag. The main point of a Powerblow is positioning. And in TAG you can dish out more damage with a tag air juggle than a powerblow anyway!
Why wouldn't it ?
Please explain
or H+P+K would still be offensive tagsor H+P+K would still be sidesteps and H+P+K would still be tag
When the opponent is about to fall from an air juggle and while hes down.
H+P+K would be a pounce tag till they get up And when the teammate dies you get a powerblow for H+P+K ..
Wheres the problem? its impossible to get an excecution error with these inputs.
Jefffcore
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Tagging in cancels out the recovery of the move you used before tagging out, it would offer options that may not have been possible with one character alone. Guard breaks for example don't always have guaranteed follow ups, tagging out would offer some. Or if you stun reset on a wall, and tag.
Yes, but thats always been how tag works .. and that has nothing to do with the inputs I mentioned.
I explained on the other thread how stupid it would be to do sit down stuns>tag cancel>power blow .... rinse-repeat. I can guarantee you its unescapable and unhodable in its current state.
But if you cant powerblow when you have 2 players alive, problem solved. and tag mode becomes more combo oriented, which is the main fun part of it.
All other setups are fine. Its how tag always was.
Jefffcore
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I see what you're saying, I thought you wanted the tag button to be removed for PB's.
You're not going to just be able to get those stuns if you're playing someone good; you won't be able to repeat, you're going to have to mix it up. Guessing between launchers in DOA4 isn't much different, you just don't get a ridiculous amount of times to do it.
You're not going to just be able to get those stuns if you're playing someone good; you won't be able to repeat, you're going to have to mix it up. Guessing between launchers in DOA4 isn't much different, you just don't get a ridiculous amount of times to do it.