Soul Calibur Thread

Nyte

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Just what I was about to say.

Anyways, how do you guys see the roster of SCVI being? In terms of size, characters, etc? Do you think it'll be bigger, smaller, or the same? Who do you think will get cut? It's an easy guess that most of the old favorites are returning, it's basically confirmed at this point, as well as the fact that most characters from V won't be returning (likely with some exceptions). Assuming the roster is the size of SCV by default (not counting possible character DLC down the road), which is 28 characters, including guest(s), and possibly being 29 counting Devil Jin. From the older games, who do you see not making it? They have to have room for new characters, which could be 2-3 or possibly more depending on how much time was spent developing it.

I'm going to assume 24 returning characters, 3 new characters, and 1 guest. If the Soul of Devil Jin returns, that makes 29 fighting styles. Who do you see making the roster?

This is extremely tricky, as almost all of the old staples placed high on the poll compared to the considerably lesser liked successors. If we have 28 characters, which has to make room for some SCV characters, new characters, and the obligatory guest, that means there are some characters from SB-SCIV who are getting the axe (if only temporarily). Who is the most disposable? I'd say Rock, first and foremost, since he's often forgotten and people wanted him to be replaced by Bangoo in SCV. Lizardman/Aeon isn't too popular either, but he's also seen as a staple and would likely raise complaints with his absence due to how unique he is of a character. Algol might get cut, but he has huge story potential, so who knows. Dampierre could also get it, but they probably want a joke character in the mix.

Predicting a roster is almost impossible outside the obvious choices. Maybe there needs to be more slots, but it might be difficult to balance that many characters in the game, but doing the opposite is going to leave some people pissed. I would've thought it would be a no-brainer, but the more I dive into it, the more it becomes a serious question. What are your thoughts?
 

Jadeinchains

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In terms of disposable characters I'd say there's probably a lot from SC5 like Pat's and Phyrra's alternate forms and the clones. Some of the others will also probably not be in so that the originals can be in.

When it comes to how many characters since SC had 34 I think and SC5 had 28 so I'd want at least somewhere in between there.
 

Tyaren

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Nearly 30 characters in a current gen fighter (that isn't KoFXIV)? Very unlikely. ;) I'd say it will be about 20-25 at most. The rest will be sold as DLC. Obviously they can't leave all the unpopular characters for DLC because not many would buy them. Some moderately popular characters will be among them as well. I think the top ten of the poll are pretty sure to return...

1. Talim
2. Taki
3. Mitsurugi
4. Ivy
5. Kilik
6. Siegfried
7. Nightmare
8. Zasalamel
9. Yoshimitsu
10. Tira

The others up to 20 are bit less likely to return. Some might have to make place for new characters or characters that are less popular but are needed for the overall balance of gameplay or story or they will be sold as DLC:

11. Sophitia
12. Cassandra
13. Amy
14. Yun-Seong
15. Seong Mi-na
16. Cervantes
17. Voldo
18. Xianghua
19. Raphael
20. Setsuka

Among the less popular characters I am very sure following will still return, just because they are so unique in fighting style or important for overall balance and story:

22. Maxi
24. Hilde
25. Astaroth
26. Z.W.E.I.
30. Lizardman
 
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Nyte

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No way Sophitia and Cassandra are getting cut. Ever since Hoshino took charge, the Alexandra girls have been used to promote the series, Sophitia in particular. Pyrrha will likely make it as well, just for being an Alexandra girl and for wanting to appeal to the Japanese consumers (which she was designed for)
 

Tyaren

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My list did not say at all they will be cut. XD Basically every name there is someone I would expect to return. Just not as absolutely sure to return as the top ten. I think there's no way any of those will be missing. But I am sure on that list below 10 there will at least be some that will either be completely missing or that are going to be DLC characters, because there will be a couple of newcomers that need space and there will be DLC characters that need to be popular. I hope not Yunseong! I missed him so much in SC5. >__< Why is he just on place 14? He's so awesome and fast and energetic. *sigh*
 
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Nyte

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There's also another factor that really makes me wonder about the roster, I call it the "X-Zone Factor". You probably know what I'm talking about. The creators of Project X Zone 2 thought it would be a great idea to make the sole (soul?) representative of SC a character introduced in SCV, and while more popular than some of the newcomers, isn't very popular overall and is leagues behind her master. That of course is Natsu.

Alright, that decision was wrong on so many levels. I'll start with this: When you ask someone to name one SC character off the top of their head, you'd get a wide variety of responses. These include Siegfried, Mitsurugi, Voldo, Cervantes, Sophitia, Nightmare, Ivy, Kilik, Maxi, Xianghua, Astaroth, Yoshimitsu, Raphael, Cassandra, Talim, Tira, Zasalamel... or for the best possible comparison, her master Taki. The point is, there were a metric shit-ton more characters that are more iconic and would've been a better fit than Natsucks.

I don't know who chose her, or why. It certainly wasn't Hoshino, because PS had no involvement with that game, nor does it seem like a decision he would make (if he did make the decision, the lone rep would've likely been Sophitia). Maybe they thought she'd be marketable, since she was made to attract Naruto fans after all. It still failed, because the majority of people prefer Taki over her. Natsu wasn't in LS and Taki was. However, what does her appearance as the lone rep of SC in PXZ2 say for her chances? I don't think she'll continue being Taki's replacement, but there's also the chance that she'll continue to be in the games for her supposed marketing potential that I have yet to see proven.

She was the only SCV newcomer in the tournament, and aside from Taki all the characters there were from SCV. If the theory that this tournament was for SCVI is true, than that basically confirms she's in. I really can't stand Natsu. While I don't hate her as much as say, Patroklos, she's still a shitty replacement to one of my favorite characters in the game (and the people who spam her attacks online didn't help it for me). Maybe if she's no longer a replacement to Taki but a separate character, she might be more bearable, but I'm still struggling to find any reason to be in the game at all when Taki is basically sure to return at this point.

Sorry for the short essay, I had to get this one off my chest because I'm worried about the implications of her being the only rep in a crossover game.
 
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Nyte

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If not Gamescom, it'll be TGS. I can feel it. They're gathering hype in order to reveal something big, it's been hinted at since May 2015, when the Facebook says that Project Soul is preparing something huge.
 

Aven Kujo-Gin

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SCV was rushed so that's why the roster is so small. Remember that Zas and Talim were in the game originally? And what about Kilik and Elysium, I guess they decided to make them mimics because time constraints. That would make 31 styles(with devil jin) plus one mimic which is Edge Master.
Considering that all the classics will return, I guess we will have SCIV roster plus someone from SCV plus two or three new characters with completely new styles.
Oh, and Hwang, he needs a return.
I really can't stand Natsu. While I don't hate her as much as say, Patroklos, she's still a shitty replacement to one of my favorite characters in the game (and the people who spam her attacks online didn't help it for me). Maybe if she's no longer a replacement to Taki but a separate character, she might be more bearable, but I'm still struggling to find any reason to be in the game at all when Taki is basically sure to return at this point.
I would like more if she wasn't such a noob friendly character. It seems that she was designed so people who never played SC before can win with easy. She is not OP, but she have some attacks that are easily spamable.
 
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KasumiLover

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Yeah I have SC4 and SC5 on Xbox 360 and don't have live so I don'tlay online. I do like to play them regularly though just to do CAS.

Also I saw more of the artwork that I thought was really great so I'll post it here.

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Those are really nice! The faces are gorgeous
 

Nyte

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SCV was rushed so that's why the roster is so small. Remember that Zas and Talim were in the game originally? And what about Kilik and Elysium, I guess they decided to make them mimics because time constraints. That would make 31 styles(with devil jin) plus one mimic which is Edge Master.
Considering that all the classics will return, I guess we will have SCIV roster plus someone from SCV plus two or three new characters with completely new styles.
Oh, and Hwang, he needs a return.

I would like more if she wasn't such a noob friendly character. It seems that she was designed so people who never played SC before can win with easy. She is not OP, but she have some attacks that are easily spamable.

I don't know about Talim but Zas' SCIV model was found in the coding, which would've made perfect sense. Weren't Kilik and Elysium mimics from the beginning? It is a part of the former's story, after all. Come to think of it, Tekken 7 won't have as much as Tekken 6, but it will still have 36-38 characters I believe, so it's not unrealistic for SCVI to aim for more.
 

Aven Kujo-Gin

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Now that I think of it, I'm kinda worried about that Seong word in Taki style, I hope they don't change her style so much.
I don't want to see another Lizardman->Aeon scenario.
 

Nyte

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Yeah, I'd rather Natsu change styles and have Taki retain her classic and iconic dual kodachi. I'd kind of hate it if Taki's style was completely changed to differentiate from Natsu, when it should ideally be the other way around. I've had the idea that if they were in the same game, Natsu would switch to using kunai + shuriken (revamped from the custom style in SCIII) while Taki continues with her signature musoh-battoh-ryu style. To be fair, "musoh-battoh-ryu" is maintained, just with "seong" in front of it. This might suggest it's simply a new variation of the style she learned, rather than her abandoning it completely.
 

Nyte

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They posted something new. An extremely obvious "guess who" trivia, it's Ivy, duh.

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However, what is interesting is that boot doesn't look like anything she's worn to the best of my knowledge. I can't tell completely with this being a silhouette, but are they hinting at SCVI by showing a piece of what she'll look like?
 

KasumiLover

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They posted something new. An extremely obvious "guess who" trivia, it's Ivy, duh.

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However, what is interesting is that boot doesn't look like anything she's worn to the best of my knowledge. I can't tell completely with this being a silhouette, but are they hinting at SCVI by showing a piece of what she'll look like?
I can't see the pic, how does the silhouette look like?
 

Tyaren

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Lol, I came for just that picture (your's doesn't show though)! XD

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Yeah, who could that be...hrmmm... >__<'
 
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