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Awesmic

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This problem was also on Final Fantasy I on the NES. I would say FFII's unpopularity stems from the dynamic and relatively weird no-level up stat growth system, not to mention wandering into the overworld and getting wrecked by a random battle levels above yours.

Still, I respect you for going through the original on the NES. I only read that review and some of its issues sound so frustrating.
Ironically, it was the leveling system which gave Square an idea to make an entirely new IP from it, which would then be known as SaGa. I wish the current Square Enix had this way of thinking when they tried to make something out of Final Fantasy XIII. It had great potential as a brand-new IP, and they messed that opportunity up.

Also, did I mention someone actually did a tool-assisted speedrun for the 8-bit version of II? Turns out the only consistent way to TAS this game is to abuse the 64-door hierarchy glitch in the nearest dungeon possible, which works in FF1, FF2, FF3, and FF4 due to shared coding. (NOTE: I actually tested the glitch with FF4 on real hardware, and it blew my mind).

If you did the glitch correctly, it turns out the game warps you to its ending. The inconsistent grinding based on random variables make it difficult to calculate an optimal strategy otherwise.
 

Jadeinchains

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Okay post game spoilers.

Apparently people are talking about how they lied because it doesn't take 15 - 72 hours to kill the Adamantoise and instead takes 1+... Like really? Why is this something people are annoyed about? I'll do me and they can do them but I personally don't want to spend over a weekend trying to kill a turtle with the equivalent of a toothpick. I will happily take my 1 - 2 hour boss fight ( which is still really long )in peace. Speaking of which I only have a few trophies left to get so I want to defeat the Adamantoise... Though I can't help but think it's this incredible beautiful creature that makes the world so unique and then you just defeat it... Hopefully it just goes into hibernation!
 

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There will be a Play Arts Kai Cindy figure:

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It's the only preview pic we go and it shows everything there really is to know, lol. XD

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Nikotsumi

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Okay post game spoilers.

Apparently people are talking about how they lied because it doesn't take 15 - 72 hours to kill the Adamantoise and instead takes 1+... Like really? Why is this something people are annoyed about? I'll do me and they can do them but I personally don't want to spend over a weekend trying to kill a turtle with the equivalent of a toothpick. I will happily take my 1 - 2 hour boss fight ( which is still really long )in peace. Speaking of which I only have a few trophies left to get so I want to defeat the Adamantoise... Though I can't help but think it's this incredible beautiful creature that makes the world so unique and then you just defeat it... Hopefully it just goes into hibernation!
Spoiler that has to do with that ^
Lol I'm fighting it right now!!!
I started out pretty bad, it doesn't do much damage but I couldn't menage to hit it. First of all I raised Noctis ATK stat as high as possible and then I tried out different weapons that could reach it and do a lot of damage in the shortest time possible. After trying out almost every weapon I found the Trident of the Oracle to be the best option in this case for me, it always hits its "legs" and it's fast.
It currently has 20% HP left and 1 in-game day has passed. Regarding the bros, I have Prompto do Piercer to lower Adamantoise' defence (Idk if it's working though xD) and Ignis boosting my weapon with an element.
Pretty epic fight so far and yeah, I agree with you that a 1-2 hour boss fight is totally a better experience than a 72 hour one xD
Btw I think you can fight it again once it's killed.
 
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Tyaren

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They had a vote for "best boy" on FFXV's official Twitter.

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I love how Prompto not only achieved a great second place but even the FFXV admin voted for him. XD
 

Jadeinchains

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Spoiler that has to do with that ^
Lol I'm fighting it right now!!!
I started out pretty bad, it doesn't do much damage but I couldn't menage to hit it. First of all I raised Noctis ATK stat as high as possible and then I tried out different weapons that could reach it and do a lot of damage in the shortest time possible. After trying out almost every weapon I found the Trident of the Oracle to be the best option in this case for me, it always hits its "legs" and it's fast.
It currently has 20% HP left and 1 in-game day has passed. Regarding the bros, I have Prompto do Piercer to lower Adamantoise' defence (Idk if it's working though xD) and Ignis boosting my weapon with an element.
Pretty epic fight so far and yeah, I agree with you that a 1-2 hour boss fight is totally a better experience than a 72 hour one xD
Btw I think you can fight it again once it's killed.

Omg lol I'm fighting it right now too! XD I started a little over 20 minutes ago and it is almost down a quarter of the way so still quite a while to go, I can't imagine if it was 72 hours!

Edit: I'm not really surprised with the placements in that contest I can't really say between Noctis and Prompto.
 

KasumiLover

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They had a vote for "best boy" on FFXV's official Twitter.

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I love how Prompto not only achieved a great second place but even the FFXV admin voted for him. XD
Who won? I can't see the image atm because of school. Is it Noctis?
 

Tyaren

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Who won? I can't see the image atm because of school. Is it Noctis?

Yes, it is always the main character that wins contests like this. ;) But Prompto was a relatively close second with 26%. Gladio and Ignis were a distant 3rd and 4th with 17% and 15% respectively.
 

Jadeinchains

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Save me...I'm over an hour in.
Why, why did people want this to be 72 hours? I'm an hour in at almost half health left and I want to scream. If anyone has any tips I'd like them! XD

Are you finished yet @Nikotsumi?
 

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I have FF15 and have played a few chapters... I'm still more interested in spending my gaming time with Pokemon. I've watched my brother play more than I have myself and if the chick is the main villain I will say Hajime Tabata is wrong about this villain topping all of the other ones. It's either bad marketing or he's just talking about the games HE worked on... most being my least favorite games in the series. The shovel ware of Final Fantasy.
 

Tyaren

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I've watched my brother play more than I have myself and if the chick is the main villain I will say Hajime Tabata is wrong about this villain topping all of the other ones.

"The chick"? Chick meaning girl? XD I don't think you have been paying close attention to your brother playing.
But I really have to ask, which one are you referring to? Luna, Cindy, Iris?
 

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While I do agree that the villain doesn't top all the others from the past, I think you need to stop Pokemon for a bit and finish FFXV rofl.

Didn't want to spoil that one, but the main villain is someone else deathofaninja.
 

Awesmic

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While I do agree that the villain doesn't top all the others from the past, I think you need to stop Pokemon for a bit and finish FFXV rofl.

Didn't want to spoil that one, but the main villain is someone else deathofaninja.
Yeah, the actual villain is way, way better...

It's THE GODDAMN SUPER SHREDDER.
 

David Gregg

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Es wird auch bald auch eine Play Arts Kai Cindy figure geben:

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It's the only preview pic we go and it shows everything there really is to know, lol. XD

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"Physics" could be a little better in game especially when she's washing the car. TN could've helped out with that. :p
 

Tyaren

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Anyone want to talk about the darkest, most disturbing scene in the entire game? :confused:
!Big Fat Ending Spoilers!
I'm talking about Ardyn's little memorabilia collection dangling from the ceiling.

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From left to right:
Aldercapt, Regis, Luna, Nyx...or what's left of them after 10 years.


A truly disgusting but also very evocative and somehow fascinating scene. Ardyn as likable and tragic of an antagonist he is, showed his truly evil side here. That was pretty f***** up, man! D: I didn't ever think I'd see something like this in an FF.
 

Awesmic

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Anyone want to talk about the darkest, most disturbing scene in the entire game? :confused:
!Big Fat Ending Spoilers!
I'm talking about Ardyn's little memorabilia collection dangling from the ceiling.

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From left to right:
Aldercapt, Regis, Luna, Nyx...or what's left of them after 10 years.


A truly disgusting but also very evocative and somehow fascinating scene. Ardyn as likable and tragic of an antagonist he is, showed his truly evil side here. That was pretty f***** up, man! D: I didn't ever think I'd see something like this in an FF.

You expected anything less from someone as ruthless as Shredder? Come on now. Granted, he's second only to Mateus and Kefka on terms of genocide, but still...
 

Tyaren

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You expected anything less from someone as ruthless as Shredder? Come on now. Granted, he's second only to Mateus and Kefka on terms of genocide, but still...

You do enjoy your TMNT comparison, don't you? ;)

I was surprised because this is a teen rated game/series and this clearly transcends the ususal: killing someone is the worst thing you can do. No, what Ardyn did is probably the worst, vilest thing you can do.
Nyx didn't deserve this after all what he went through, Regis too. With Luna it is especially tragic, because they mentioned in a scene in Tenebrae that her body together with Pryna (the white dog) had vanished. They thought it was swept away by the ocean. Nah, it was just Ardyn getting off on it dangling from his ceiling. And Pryna is probably somwhere stuffed up.
 
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