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Brute

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I prefer that, small movesets, while limited are easy to optimize and bring out the most potential.
I personally like to have a large repertoire at my disposal. That way my opponent is always guessing what I'll do next, and I have a lot of freedom to change things up for flash and flare as to avoid getting stale.
 

J.D.E.

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I'm sticking with who I've always liked & used. Which would happen to be Kasumi. The others that I intend to use at the moment:
Ryu
Jann Lee
Hayate
Ayane
Kokoro
Sarah (fav VF character)
Akira (another VF fav)
Tina
Christie
Hitomi

I'm worried about Helena, based off what I've heard I don't really like Eliot, but he seems like everybody's "go-to-guy". I'm liking Lei Fang & Brad Wong too. Nonetheless, Kasumi is my main but REALLY I intend on using everybody that I can.
 

Pupi18

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I'll play everyone before judging in the end but Kokoro and Eliot team is safe (Kokoro player in 4&Dimensions and Eliot in Dimensions) to say they will still be the main priority and Mila with huge potential for the 3rd main.
 

Goro Hazuki

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I'll play everyone before judging in the end but Kokoro and Eliot team is safe (Kokoro player in 4&Dimensions and Eliot in Dimensions) to say they will still be the main priority and Mila with huge potential for the 3rd main.

Don't mean to throw my main from VF in your face lol, but would you consider adding Akira on your list? I'd just like to see your perspective as a kokoro player, because I'm seriously thinking about giving her a lot of attention this time around due to my love for Akira and that she would very likely be a great teammate to him.
 

Pupi18

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Don't mean to throw my main from VF in your face lol, but would you consider adding Akira on your list? I'd just like to see your perspective as a kokoro player, because I'm seriously thinking about giving her a lot of attention this time around due to my love for Akira and that she would very likely be a great teammate to him.
I'm good with him actually but we'll see how things shape up. Tons of changes in the characters might make me up my mains up to 5 (Don't want to have more than 5 mains)
 

Jefffcore

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My "main(s)" in DOA4 were Jann Lee, and 'Busa. 'Busa doesn't look all that exciting anymore, and I can't NOT play Mila, so I'll be dropping 'Busa for her.
 

Raansu

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I keep hearing that Hitomi has to play the DoA4 game...at this rate she might end up taking a back seat. I'm kind of fed up with her style anyways. We'll see when the game comes out if another character clicks for me. If not I guess I'd go back to my main in 3(secondary in two, Eins not in 5 and I dropped him in 4 for Hitomi lol) which was Jann Lee.
 

virtuaPAI

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Im sticking with My Tina. Have to re-invent her. Lei fang plays like her 3.1 Counter part...love that :K::2::K: is back to its old status. Pai, well that's my baby she will be my 3rd Character.
 

Goro Hazuki

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Im sticking with My Tina. Have to re-invent her. Lei fang plays like her 3.1 Counter part...love that :K::2::K: is back to its old status. Pai, well that's my baby she will be my 3rd Character.

I love Tina this time around. I just want to work on her max damage from various setups, but she has a lot of nice setups now :)
 

virtuaPAI

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I'm really not quite happy with Tina this time around, but maybe it has to do with many of her Changes(That I will post in detail come game release) That I am not used to. Have to reinvent my play style with her.
 

Goro Hazuki

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Yeah, I can understand. I'm from the other end, I wasn't happy with her in 4 (I've mained Tina since day 1 of DOA 1 and added Christie since her debut in 3), so I'm excited about her latest iteration. But I wouldn't go as far as saying you will have to reinvent. I felt she was quite familiar, only tweaked in many areas for the better. I'm sure you will be happy with her.

I am interested to see your write up once the game is out though :)
 

EMPEROR_COW

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Tina is honestly incredible ... (not just visually :p ) ... GGs today Goro... gave me some more ideas on Tina setups!

hmmm... combo vid potential ??? hmmmmmmmm (I hope I have the time :( )

On a side note,
Im finding every character I put my hands on incredible in their own right and so damn different ...
mastering this game will be a big chore this time around ... but at the same time I really wanna reach a decent level with everyone :) ( I still think eliot is the least interesting in the entire cast )
 

DrDogg

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I think Tina is on the verge of being low tier.

Cow, when are you coming to the US? I think you need a taste of how we play sir. ;)
 

EMPEROR_COW

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I think Tina is on the verge of being low tier.

Cow, when are you coming to the US? I think you need a taste of how we play sir. ;)

Gladly! I would love to actually!
But being married, having a full time job, being on the verge of finishing up my PhD and moving out of the UK back to Saudi Arabia comes first. When all is set and done and I am settled, I would love to come to the US maybe for one of those DIDs or even Evo.. or head to Japan and play some of the players there :)

But you're more than welcome to drop by London for one of the European Majors. I can assure you that the UK/EU level is not as bad as you think. And maybe you can get a taste of what WE have to offer ;)
 

Brute

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Im finding every character I put my hands on incredible in their own right and so damn different ...
mastering this game will be a big chore this time around ... but at the same time I really wanna reach a decent level with everyone :) ( I still think eliot is the least interesting in the entire cast )
He was the most, well, how should I put this... simple(?) in DOA4 (at least in my experience).
He didn't have enough variation or mix-up game to keep my interest for more than the occasional random select.
 

Goro Hazuki

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I think Tina is on the verge of being low tier.

To be honest, I'm not that fussed about tier rankings. I'm sure you already know this, but the moment you're in high level competition, any character can be very dangerous. My point is, in the right hands, all characters can be very strong.

Just as an exaggerated example, let's say there's a character that has poor follow ups and really slow attacks (let's go as high as 100 frames for attacks....why not? lol). But his counters and throws are in line with other fighters. If a player is amazing at reading the opponents moves perfectly (another exaggeration), in theory, the match can be won by using throws and counters alone. Yes, it's challenging and not ideal, but it's possible. (I'm just using this silly example to make a point).

There's a popular player in the street fighter circles that won a tournament using T-Hawk just to prove this point. So while tiers are relevant to point out which characters are more usable, dish out better damage, have better frame advantage...etc... The player should really be added to the formula (not easy to do).

Anyways, I'm sure this topic has been hashed out elsewhere. But I just thought I'd respectfully share my opinion because I see tier talk almost everywhere here and it's given more weight than it deserves.
 
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