Ninja Gaiden Thread

Fiend Busa

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Hopefully NG:RE will be better than this piece of turd

Hated playing every minute of this :p
You can see how bad the input lagg is, targeting system, slow downs, and grab fest
 

CyberEvil

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Input delay was a huge problem thanks to the framerate in 3 and that was especially true at higher difficulties. On Normal it played like a perfectly sound action game. Higher than that, and especially on MN, it became nearly unplayable. The final fight on Master Ninja nearly broke my will to finish it and I haven't missed beating a single core release (NG/Black, NG2, NG:DS, and NG3) on MN at all. I didn't finish any of the Sigma's on MN because for whatever reason I lost interest.

Let's be real, though: Hayabusa has ALWAYS had problems with targeting the wrong enemy and that's not unique to 3. Wasn't even any worse.

Razor's Edge has me genuinely excited because it's going to be a significantly better game than 3 by default; we may even enjoy the parts of 3 that bothered us in its first iteration with some fancy new distractions. I personally hated the fact that we were basically walking down a path into what amounted to a wave-based arena battle and repeating it throughout the whole game. While there were other issues, that just seemed way more painful than in any other title because there was so little else going on.

We had one weapon, little enemy variation, one Ninpo, some seriously flawed AI for enemies, grabs becoming the new IS spam, no health bars on bosses, and a narrative that never got broken up by something fresh in the gameplay. We now have several weapons and the ability to purchase skills and upgrades, new enemy patterns (not sure if there are new enemies but I don't recall any in the Wii U version), several returning Ninpo, interruptable grabs if you're on point, health bars, Ayane missions, and the addition of Kasumi and Momiji during Shadows of the World (if the MP component is still called that). There's more but I'm distilling it down to major bullet points.

I think this game has a shot at bringing a lot of us that felt let down back into the fold and, at a discounted price, it feels like a nice gesture from Team NINJA. The way I see it our purchase here shows TK and Team NINJA that we are interested in paying for an improved Ninja Gaiden. We are interested in putting up our money to keep experiencing the Team NINJA brand of action. And we are definitely interested in supporting trying new things as long as it pans out. NG3 was obviously an experiment on many levels and a good majority of us rejected it after playing the finished project. Instead of scrapping it and focuses on a new title that is really just more of the last successful title, they said "No, we can make this better," and seemingly did so. The critics definitely bought into it and nearly unanimously declared Razor's Edge a vast improvement over 3 and worth of the name Ninja Gaiden.

It's about time the Master Ninja fans got their hands on it and weighed in...and without using that gaudy fucking Wii U Gamepad.

...and yes, that totally came off as a bit preachy, but I'm extremely passionate about this franchise in case you didn't figure it out yet!
 

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Yeah, I haven't finished MN on Sigma 1 simply because of time reasons and the fact that every time I play it I'm reminded how much better Black is and find myself wishing I were playing that one instead. Beat Black, NG2 and NGS2 all on MN, though, but couldn't motivate myself to even try it in NG3 because after one playthrough (I played it on Hard) I was completely done with it given they offered nothing in regard to replayability. Every move and enemy I had already fought far too many times over given the ludicrous enemy spawn arena formula compounded with the lack of any weapon/character/ninpo/costume variety at all.
RE may still have many of the same problems NG3 did, and I'm not expecting it to be the ultimate Ninja Gaiden (or even come close to Black's level of perfection). But that said, people are saying that its gameplay is much the same as Ninja Gaiden 2 (which was awesome but also flawed) but you also get new characters which you can play in the campaign mode (something I was absolutely lustful for in NGS2), the gore and ferocity of the xbox version I loved, and a decent weapon selection when taking into consideration Ryu's plus all the women's. Basically, it seems like a hybrid of NG2 and NGS2 with many of the perplexing "Why wasn't this obviously cool design element not incorporated for some reason?" issues addressed (save "Why are Chapter Challenges not available in co-op?"). And you know what? That sounds like heaven to me, even if it's not Ninja Gaiden: Black.

I'll reserve final judgement 'till I actually get my hands on it, but suffice to say I'm very excited. From what I hear, this is what I was expecting from a sequel to NG2.

side note: I had more issues targeting in NG3 simply due to the stupidity of its enemies. They moved in strange ways, some disappeared and lost target-lock, and often sent you deflected because of armor/shields or w/e.
 

Fiend Busa

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He already provided a link when I asked the same question. Go back a page. It's a podcast.

Don't get me wrong I'm super excited for RE but most of the new addons are rehashed from the old games and they all have the loops and bugs that were in NG3 with the old NG2/NG1 bosses

For the dual katanas they removed the Foward triangle move which makes me sad :(

I barely finished NG3 story since it was so bad so RE will be fresh

Ill be making a master ninja run video and trial videos for sure
 

Darrell

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Looks like it's not coming out till tomorrow. Didn't think demos came out on Wednesdays. Oh well.
 

Brute

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I am Canadian :p
Which is North America.

It seems like it's going to be another one of those "It'll be released on Tuesday... at some point," which requires me to check after the day is nearly over for any new content because they refuse to upload it in the morning. Quite aggravating.

Anyway, I'll play it fairly soon and give you all my thoughts ASAP.
 

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Not sure if it was already posted in English...if it was, bummer, if not then here it is all unwatermarked and such. Gotta share the love!
 

Darrell

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It just looks so freaking fun!! Kinda wish it was digital download game, so I wouldn't have to take out DMC.

Is it me or does 0:35-0:39 have motion blur?
 

CyberEvil

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Use the edit button! From now on, if your title isn't "New Member" it's an automatic warning. Seriously guys, just edit. It's annoying to keep merging posts...

And the game will be digital download for PS3 day one. Xbox is not as likely.

EDIT: Siliconera is reporting the demo will be up for Xbox and PSN today. Let's see if Microsoft gets it done on time.
 

Fiend Busa

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Use the edit button! From now on, if your title isn't "New Member" it's an automatic warning. Seriously guys, just edit. It's annoying to keep merging posts...

And the game will be digital download for PS3 day one. Xbox is not as likely.

EDIT: Siliconera is reporting the demo will be up for Xbox and PSN today. Let's see if Microsoft gets it done on time.

Doubt it, don't Microsoft update on Wednesday's?

Demo is out!!
 

CyberEvil

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Doubt it, don't Microsoft update on Wednesday's?

Demo is out!!
No. Microsoft isn't stuck in the stone age like Sony and updates daily. The only thing that happens on Wednesday would be XBLA game releases. For instance, the demo for Army of Two 3 and the Endgame expansion for BF3 drop today. And the demo is confirmed for release today for Xbox as well.
 

Fiend Busa

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aww yeaaah

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CyberEvil

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Congrats. Enjoy sir. Report back on how it plays, what difficulties we get, et al.
 

Fiend Busa

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Congrats. Enjoy sir. Report back on how it plays, what difficulties we get, et al.

Im uploading video atm

You get Ayane chapter and Ryu and I think kasumi after you beat

When i played I got normal and hero difficulty

What I thought?
Wow man the gameplay is so damn smooth and awesome, plays just like NG2 with a rpg element to it which I like very much, the upgrading system is awesome

Plays nothing like NG3 at all

Uploading a quick video
 
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