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@Force_of_Nature Well, if you thought they were going to create brand new sprites for a side game that was shown to use the old sprites at reveal then that is on you. Went from GBVS lacking content to it being nothing special. Don't need to make up stuff just because you don't like a game lmao. The characters weren't finished. What more do you want? Delay the release of the game?

@Hold_Junkie93 It's an anime game so it was never going to be a big hit. And GBVS came in with loads of content like tutorial mode while looking good. That's already good enough. Yeah, every game released after SG should have had rollback...

It's not about it being a hit. More like, imagine if a game, not by a reputable IP(FG) came in and said, "Buy my DLC, money, money money!" without trying to prove its worth to you. That's why GBFV failed partially. Even someone like Sega released FS update on consoles for $15 base and $30 for all costumes +plus extra mode. It's VF, they coulda asked for 60 and they didn't. So, who the fuck is GBFV with their BS?

I never said that I don't like GBVS. I just think that GBVS & BBTAG aren't good value. And yes, if you're not finished, you delay the game. BBTAG & GBVS are both half-assed games for the price tags they were being asked for. Something like Killer Instinct 3 had less content than fully-priced games so it was priced accordingly. Also to put things in perspective, can you imagine a game like VF pulling that bullshit?

How did GBVS fail? It is a new fighting game focused on simplified mechanics so it was never going to be big in the FGC. Then it is also an anime game no one knows about so count the majority of the public out too. Having less DLC is not going to do anything. It's just another niche anime fighter like BB and GG. And you're comparing an update to a new game lmao.

@Force_of_Nature then at least don't blindly make up stuff just because you want to. And delay a completed game until the DLC characters are finished? When that becomes normal for fighting games I'll join your stance. I know nothing about KI and I have no interest in it but is it doing amazing? And imagine VF doing what? A crossover game with multiple series?

I think gbvs model is like the gacha, but it started at the worst time aka this year never really shined offline yet.

What did I make up @human013? You do realize I have the game right? You're defending the game for what? For being an ArcSys game? I know it's the cool thing to shit on DOA6, but at least DOA6 can technically be played for free. I will full-heartedly agree that the pandemic stifled GBVS' offline presence. Doesn't change the fact that the game is overpriced, along with having Delayed netcode in 2020.

@oMASTER LEGENDo Its a fighting game with DLC characters. If that makes it a gacha game then all fighting games are gacha games.

@Force_of_Nature "GBVS is also scandalous being a fully priced game with only, like, 11 characters at launch, lack of content, and overpriced DLC characters in its first 2 months."

Every new fighting game had a small roster. If roster size is such an issue then just don't ever play a new fighting game. DOA6 is not a new game. So what is missing in GBVS that makes it overpriced? And we really using delayed based netcode as a talking point? Should I go back to every game released after SG and say they are bad because they don't have rollback?

I meant granblue in itself is a gacha game lol.

If that's how you have to spin things around to make it fit your view then more power to you.

That,"update" came in after 4 years from Vanilla, skipped a version and had online. They definitely coulda charged 60. Believe it or not, Sega had little faith in it doing well at all. Even for JP bc it was a console release. JP played Arcade VF way more. Despite VFDC begging for it. They were surprised at how well it did for a non-Sonic game. They tend to be that oblivious.

You didn't answer the question: 'What did I make up'? I didn't make up anything, everything I said is true of GBVS. It's not the small roster in itself completely that's the issue, but GBVS quite frankly doesn't have the depth to get away with charging full price for only 11 characters. The overall content including "RPG Mode" is not enough to justify full price either.

How much did Skullgirls cost? How much did Power Rangers: Battle For the Grid cost? How much did Fantasy Strike cost? How much did VF5FS cost? How much does DOA6 Core Fighters cost? Hint, nowhere close to full price. The overall feel of the package between these games and either GBVS or BBTAG is pretty telling when you take into account all the ArcSys DLC tacked on top too.

@Hold_Junkie93 When Sega does all the things you mentioned before then sure, I'll side with you. Until then, all you're doing is comparing a new fighting game to an update.

@Force_of_Nature "Overpriced DLC characters" when they cost the same as other DLC characters. Then went from "lack of content" to it being "nothing special" and now it's "not enough to justify full price". Why is that the case again? Are you ever going to give a concrete answer as to why? And now depth is a factor in pricing? lol

Indie games, games that don't look half as good as GBVS, games with less content, an update, and a F2P version of a full priced game that has even less content. Go ahead and compare everything in those game with their DLCs to each other too.

I compare that update to a new game because it has more bang for the buck than that $70+ all we're saying. I don't see how you can defend those games. It more so, the admission to even play the game in its full package that's the issue. All these other games we mentioned have something GBFV didn't, gentility. They can EASILY try to manipulate us with their status. They have at least, economical alternatives.