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Phase-4 is amazing and is quite fun when you actually hit the opponent with something, but you always feel like complete shit with her when you get most things blocked, especially the "auto-doubles".

As for the whole spacing character thing. Why would I play a spacing game with Phase-4 when I can do that Ayane, Hitomi, Momiji, Jann Lee and even Kasumi for example, with much better tools? If someone use Phase-4 on me, please try to zone out my Ayane. Phase-4's safety is very LOL.

You don't even know what my opinion is.
I said that people dropping the character in less than a week because she doesn't have all the tools their stupid OP mains have is lazy and hilarious. That's it.
I don't go into any more depth regarding gameplay these days because it falls on deaf ears.

Alright. Let's have a reassessment of sorts after a month or so of her release.

We can hold the same conversation and see what has changed, given that should be an ample amount of time to figure things out.

Yeah, we can come back in a month only to hear a bunch of people complain about how she's still bad because they dropped her after a week of online play from when she came out and haven't invested in her since.

Or we could not, and I could just let everyone believe whatever misguided things they want.

I like the latter idea, personally.

Or you could actually voice your actual fucking opinion instead of acting like you're all higher and mightier than us.

Sounds like everyone loses either way.

I just did voice my opinion.

For what it's worth, it really is the consensus of the tournament players on the whole that she is really bad. I have run sets against the character offline and feel that way; she is deadly unsafe. (You can throw most things she can put in your face on block, FC or no) She's not so bad that she's unplayable, but she shares the issues that Ein has and manages to be more fundamentally unsolid than that.

Have they finally decided what "bad" means?

Good for them.

Christ, Brute. What's with the unnecessary attitude?

I try my best to remain civil. I'm sorry if I've somehow offended you, as that was not my intent.

Eyyy man. It's all good. I know how it is, sometimes.

Enough for this. She's not exactly going to be unplayable (it's still DOA), but the alarm bells being rung here are not false, the worries substantial.

It's not an issue of "worries" really. If someone actually cares enough about my critical thoughts on the matter (not that they do) they can feel free to PM me about it and I will discuss it privately.
But P4's issues aren't really about the character. I realize that statement sounds like I'm a mental patient who was accidentally discharged,

but there's this strange stigma that seems to have been established for a variety of reasons and everyone is quick to hop on board without recognizing why it came into place and what implications that has on the character and the views of the community at large.

And so now we just have people regurgitating embellished and exaggerated opinions that are based on limited analysis.

And so you shake your head and become some sort of antagonizing naysayer, and thus the cycle continues.

I understand that. All the same, there has to be a distinction between where legitimate issues can be heard at some point. And not every player is going to be entering the discussion with the same amount of strength; still, conflating all individuals of similar argument is not correct, either.

But the method of assessing where we put that weight ("strength") is just whacky right now (obviously I use "we" liberally here; not trying to imply guilt by association to anyone). So if it gets sorted out, by all means, I'll engage and contribute what I can and learn myself, as in an ideal situation everyone would benefit. But until that happens, I won't horde all the mud being flung around at this time.

I wouldn't suggest you would. Nor am I really endorsing some of the way some people are getting to that conclusion. Still, I think that a pretty heavily one-sided reaction by the veterans is pretty indicative of something, especially after that opinion gets sharper after offline play. (Over here at my place, it was just abysmal)