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There is actually another question with the nerf, though. It's not the "should" it be nerfed; it's the *how*. I've went from something heavier in my mind to something lighter, but I think there's a possible argument there. Right now I think the jabs just need altered. But, for us, the more...

It's confirmed. At least unless I missed someone weird. Most jabs are universal in that they give the same kind of stun no matter what, which will put the opponent more immediately FT. Gen's would be more weird than anything if not for the nature of the string.

Thanks, Brute. Yeah, it's strange. I keep playing with the glitch element of this and then the other things with Gen. It's such a weirdly perfect mix to make the infinite happen, that it's hard to know what all to call it.

Gen's does too, except on HCH, at which point it doesn't. They could just nuke that. EDIT: I'm changing my mind. I think that the pragmatics of setting up the kind of reset needed to make it work without the jabs would be too difficult to realistically pull off in a fight. Changing the jabs...

A quick primer on the Gen Fu infinite (PP(delay)P-9P-PP(delay)P) 6009 The main thing needed for the infinite to work is a stun, while the opponent is BT, that keeps the opponent in BT. From there, Gen Fu accesses all of his HCH-type stuns on a BT, which allow him to chain the PPP string into a...

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Ah, I see, my bad. I misread the top bar and didn't think of the 66H+K. Also; yeah, I acknowledged that BKO 6P4P is correct. I merely noted that this is not a common actual occurrence in game, and that any Helena player should be ready to see that second punch countered because it happens all...

Helena! :) [Edit, nevermind, my bad!) Only other thing I noted was the listing of A guaranteed 2-in-1 (BKO 6P4P) which is correct in NH, but where you're very likely to be landing it in CH and in CH it isn't a 2-1, so there should be a bit of wariness just throwing it out. Still, been waiting...

It's worth noting that, based on data, Phase 4 is as much a faster Momiji as she is Kasumi.

Would love to do this again. I'll see what I can do.

Early Phase-4; very throw punishable, slower, stiff string manip. Hits like a truck, great lockdown. High punch has reset potential.

We'll put up something here when we'll try and gather somewhere for sure. TBH, last weekend two of us (including the one who usually organizes people) was out of town, so it wasn't going to happen that Friday. So updates coming, presumably.

Hm. Useful or hurtful impulse to want to hit a ton of buttons? Traveling again, and I just want to take some time from my work to mash.

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Thanks for the tournament, guys. I caught the stream, it was nice to see a crop of new DOA players. Keep at it!

2P is hella dangerous against a Helena player with a clue. Spam that, and you eat Helena's 3P, which means I can either put you in vortex or single-guess you (effectively) for a third of your life into oki. Everything else can get ducked. Both have options for sure, but Helena can be just as in...

I don't think either is true at all. Helena's neutral numbers work out fine against Sarah, and BKO duck has an easier time with Sarah's mid than any of the other speedier mids save Pai (those mids are sometimes not fun for Helena, but with those follow ups? Not at all). She does better in range...

Indeed. More speed limitations would make the crush strength and damage potential not nearly so bad. Helena?!?!?!?!? (She gets around Sarah pretty easily, actually. That is not a great match up for Sarah, IMO)

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