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All I do with Leifang is tick throw. I welcome offensive holds. :v EDIT: Legit, though, if I had Eliot/Gen Fu's 214T on Leifang, I would never use another character. I want a reset throw so bad. I've seriously used her neutral throw as a shitty reset throw. That would be so huge. Either that...

You can have my combo listings. :v You can just take the rest from what I posted in the top 10 moves thread. It's raw text though. I wrote it like two months ago in notepad and never got around to finishing up the actual guide part. :v Parry Combo 9KK PP6PP (F, SL, L, W) 9KK 46P (F, SL, L, W...

Juicebox made a great video on footsies a month ago. Even though it's for 2D, it explains the fundamental idea behind trying to hit your opponent.

I wouldn't mind Gen Fu 3P at all if he had a 14f mid.

What Eliot needs is Gen Fu's 3P. EDIT: And a launch throw that actually hits the cieling. Why doesn't it already do this.

I played Eliot in Toryuken. :v

"Your top tier character is better than my top tier character!"

That's not what neutral game means.

It's okay, those throws are hella good.

Well, I think even something odd like 5.4 is better than forcing something into a 5-5 when it's fairly advantageous towards one side. And for the "best of 10" thing, it'd just be a best of 100 instead. That said, I don't support decimal values that aren't just .5s 'cause there's no way people...

Why don't we use decimals? Forcing stuff into 5-5, 4-6, and 6-4 seems stupid when we can just call it what it is.

I don't actually use holds like that, I use strikes to catch whiffs. Like I make a prediction to when Ayane's gonna do a 3H+K or something based on her movements and I FC3P to catch her right after her active frames run out. I'll try holds in the future and see if I get better results. As for...

It's just really hard to get in against her. Once she has a life lead, she can just play keep away and she has the tools to do so really well. My usual anti-spacing strategy with Leifang is reactive whiff punishing. I can't do it well against Ayane, though, 'cause her legs are hella long and I...

I'll trade you all of Leifang's throws for Hitomi's 6T reset. :v

Honestly, I think Ayane's the only bad matchup for Leifang. I don't even mind the Gen Fu matchup, 'cause she got tools to make him play honest. Sarah is pretty free and if anything, it's in Leifang's favor. Christie's one of the problematic ones for me, but it's not even a problem of tools. I...

I pronounce her name wrong even though I can speak Chinese fluently. It's magic. As much as I like to shit on EH, at least it gives a general idea of what people think. I don't think our tier list is ever gonna be finished, 'cause almost no one is giving their opinions on matchups.