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Yeah but only a few characters got a free costume so if there is a new free pack it should have costumes for the characters who didn't get one the first time around.

Only certain characters had a free costume so I doubt Helena will/should get another one.

I can put you into stun and go high, mid, low or i12 grab with any character. It's not like guessing wrong against her screws the opponent more than any other character. Hell when Hitomi uses a SDS she can go for a high launcher, or a mid launcher or a NH stun low or her 33F+P. It doesn't make...

Is the hit box on it still really dumb?

I figured with 5U they were planning on giving all characters real SDS's. It's so stupid to include such as major mechanic and only give it to a few characters. The only hope I have now is that her bound state game makes up for her shit SDS's. If P(P) always bounds on CH then she will have at...

Yeah but I was hoping nerfing the shit out of her FT game would open her up for "real" guaranteed follow ups instead she got more "they gotta fuck up when SE'ing" SDS's. It's pretty disappointing.

I recognise you and I will not agree on this so I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise. I'm not saying you don't have any valid points but I think we are likely to just end up repeating ourselves.

If it is +16 on fastest that means 6K cannot be guaranteed because 6K being i15 is actually i16 after adding 1 frame for activation, so no guaranteed launch for Helena. Her 3PPP is +23 now so her SDS's are apparently still only +15 at best. So her new sit down stun only guarantees 6P...

If all you are interested in is semantics then there is no discussion to be had so we may as well leave it at that.

Bladez dominates with Helena and brings out Alpha for shits pretty much. He always leads with Helena. If he was leading with Alpha for 99% of his matches instead of Helena this would be a completely differently conversation but that's not the case.

It reminds me of Tager in BlazBlue. He was the worst character in the game for so many years but he was a fantastic scrub/online killer. Alpha is similar. She is an "oddly" balanced character so placing her on a tier list is hard. She hits hard, has great range, godly throws, a variety of...

Overall she is the same character as she is in 1.03. All the things people are complaining about were present before 5U, where were all these people crying back then? On paper she looks absolutely absurd but in high level/tournament play she has never done very well. Unless people start wrecking...

I wonder if her 1P+K is still retarded or not.

Seeing as she got fairly well nerfed with her 3in1's > 6P gone I'm eager to see what TN gave her to compensate. Maybe her bound state game will be godlike? If P(P) go straight into bound which guarantees 66KPP then she will be awesome.

I guess all the requested costumes are going to be DLC. Seems unlikely that they would not include any of the ones people were asking for. Maybe we will get a free one as with the launch of Vanilla.

So does she have any new costumes?

Sarah's P+K is bullshit seeing as it jumps lows, parries mid's, tracks, is +2 on block and causes a sit down stun on hit. On topic, Helena's hand slaps have fantastic hit boxes so hitting her out of them is nigh on impossible. They do need to be at least -2 on block instead of being -4 so she...

It depends on how many frames it takes her to get into BT, I don't have the game in front of me right now but I thought currently she was at something lousy like +3 when those string were free cancelled on CH. I doubt she will be at negative but hopefully she gets more than what she gets when...

I'm curious about something. Seeing as 8PP, 6P and 3PP when free cancelled remove deep stun what frames are you left at when you cancel into BT on CH? Hopefully you don't go into BT at negative regardless of whether it's on NH or CH.

If she is left at -1 as long as the opponent has at the slowest an i12 mid she will lose. Why give up +2 just to go into a stance at negative where she has no real mobility or the ability to guard? +2 will stuff a standing OH and a high or mid if the opponent likes pressing buttons. It's just...