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Defeats the purpose still. Something odd though, 6656p is faster to do than 6656p+k ( the buffering of 66p ends sooner than 66p+k)

I'm looking forward to it.

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Like how Eliot's 7p is now. Pushed back with no vantage to either player. 1 frame just frame for advantage, 2-4 frame window for just the no vantage pushed back force get up.

I'd be happy if they made the force get up part of it a 1 frame just frame. If they can pull that off a few times in a round, then they deserve to win.

I didn't realize 9k knock backed or whatever you wanna call it. I'd much prefer keeping it 50/50 between critical burst and throw. What are people using after 6p4pp? I'm using 6p4pp to set up going into BT via 6p4p. If the full string lands I just 6k+f 2k and if they start tech rolling to...

50/50 scenario which introduces a strong possibility of loosing 1/4 or 1/3 health which leads into the exact same 50/50. Helena's oki game was no where near as powerful as Rachels yet it got nerfed.

Fluked it against @Berzerk! at the EB Expo tournament yesterday. I had no idea it would sidestep but I got him when he was using a run in attack (). Iirc it whiffed and sidestepped. Yeah needs to be looked into and compared to his regular 8/2.2

That's what I love about Lisa, so many different ways to play her. 1k opens the opponent up for her run in game. Personal I stick to her OH, an 11 frame throw or stun. Only amateur in the sense you are not using it according to health (dis)advantage. If you're 1 small combo away from loosing...

@boobiebombs You back away too much when you have the advantage. When the opponent is on the ground or heading there pressure forward always. Force get ups with 1k after you land the BT 4k. If they don't tech roll always look to force get ups for that good frame advantage. After pp2k or 2k+f if...

Anyone got anything new? I've found so far... For his PL HEAVY: hold 6 and for timing say to yourself "1 and 2"... 3k 3kp ppk All other classes: sidestep 236p+k 3k4 p+k k+f 3p(charged)p or 4p+k while running p or 1kk to force tech if they don't tech roll 6k6k 1kk2k

Even with the stick, it's not like DOA is not strict with the input.

I'll be at EB Expo up in Sydney this weekend.

Can you add the 1k stun change and also that it can be used as a stun reset as well.

Updated with DOA5U information. Let me know what people want to see, what your opinions on certain things etc.

HS p now is only +5-12 on hit. Meaning LFT k no longer connects (gay) and it's now a 50/50 with his OH (40d-60d) or his K launcher (up to 80d).

pp6k2 2kk2 etc are back. Interesting he has no longer has a tracking move from LHT but now has that parry.

Pretty funny that a blocked BT p+k still guarantees a 6p. 1k can be used as a stun reset that pushes them to a distance. This is a give and take, previously close in it would give you a run in 50/50 66p+h or a knock down on CH. At distance it still gives you a run in 50/50 66p+h 1pkkk is the...

Good information Hoods. Let's get tweeting. https://twitter.com/The_Black_Guy/status/384121383929655296

6p+k is now -3 on block 6p+kp is -6 on block. I'm pretty sure this used to be the other way around. Kinda a give and take because 6p+k was always pseudo safe because of the follow up but the follow up was easy to read/counter. EDIT: Nevermind. That was a change from DOA4 to DOA5.