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Thanks for the tip, shadow, good to know! :)

Also known as Lisa's CB. Thought i'd make a separate thread to point out some things about this move since i rarely see anyone use it except in stun. Did any of you guys realize how GODLY this move is outside of stun? Let me count the ways: 1. can transition to BT from it 2. Is a mid kick 3...

I think you'll like Lisa. She's not a grappler in the traditional sense, but she can play a very good single strike game, can get an air throw off any of her FIVE launchers (two of them only need normal hit too), and has an excellent range game. She also has better than average damage to boot.

Oh yeah, dude, 1P is KING for Lisa users lol

You can also substitute BT K for BT 7P to make your CB mixup stronger; it lands the same stun as 7P and yields similar results. Also, BT 1p has the same frames as BT 7p too, but it requires a little more damage to reach CB threshold. Random note: You can get a guaranteed 33K launcher after PP...

Lisa also has unsafe guard breaks i answered n/a for stuff i have no clue on.;) 1. n/a 2. Lisa has one that puts her at -18 lol 3. TN should be more generous with sitdowns in general imo. 4. n/a 5. n/a 6. i dunno, do their parries make their next attack a counter hit? If so, then hell no. 7...

Yep, i use that same 66PK, 7P, CB combo too. Sometimes i'll throw in a jab after 7p to discourage holders. I used to avoid 66pk but it grants such great stun and the first punch tracks; been using it more, but at mid range of course since it's i20. Also, if you manage to whiff 66P, but land the...

Don't forget about :1::f+k:, canceling this is the fastest way to get into Carrera. With that said, I still think Carrera is pretty weak. It's only use, to me anyways, is for that delicious tracking OH. Everything else sucks. Carrera canceling is redundant to me; if you're at mid range...

So . . . did anybody realize Lisa's PP gives her +19 on hit? :eek: Technically, just the second punch. I mean, i always liked this move, but now i know why. What this means, is that if you land PP4, you can get a guaranteed 4P launcher if the opponent doesn't hold, followed by air throw on the...

hell yes, i LOVE her! A lot of people shit on her though, makes me sad:(

So was going through Lisa's move list again in training--did anyone realize just how many tracking moves she actually has? yeah, sure, her leaping OHs are sidesteppable; but i wonder if TN did that because of the sheer amount of tracking moves this chick has in her arsenal. Hell, even 66P...

I seriously think that if they just buffed the speed on a lot of moves, it could seriously fix this character. She has enough tools, they're just pathetically slow. I mean, she has so many moves that are over 20 frames--that's ridiculous in a game with 9 frame jabs and 5 frame throws, and...

Ahhaha, i forgot about that scene. It made me laugh how Lei Fang just came out of nowhere, next thing you know, it's ROUND ONE! FIGHT! lol

The game gets a 10 because of Lisa's new model and her array of smexy outfits. I'd give the game itself, however, a 7. Needs some more guaranteed options, imo.

I'm curious to see what this game would be like if holds were usable ONLY during stun.

So . . .i guess there IS a use for splash feint. As a low crush. However, it's space dependent and sometimes she'll land in front of the opponent, especially if it's a standing low. But most of the time she lands either behind them or to the side. So if you anticipate a low move in BT and...

Funnily enough, i used to LOVE the story for King of Fighters. There was virtually none in the game, but the outside material was exciting. Then they started the whole Ash thing . . .

This is an interesting prospect. I'll have to try this.

I don't know, for fighting games, i personally don't give a damn about story mode, and would rather the devs focus their attention on other things, like costumes, stages, extra characters. VF5FS has no story, yet it's one of the best fighting games i've ever played (and still do). I quit...

Hrm, i dunno Return. . . Thing is, i fight people that know how to fight Lisa--there's no way i ever land 66K because it's too damn slow. I get held each time, or worse, sidestepped. This move completely blows if it's sidestepped. Also, i'm not sure yet, but can't the opponent slow escape...