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Thanks Tones. I'm finding BT 1P to be a really good move atm. It causes trip stun on counter hit, or normal hit if you're in water, and it tracks. It gives enough stun to land a 6p or 6k if they don't hold if used on normal hit. Did anyone realize 7K from BT tracks as well? And it's relatively...

I just wish holds had more recovery, and that the goddamn low hold was fixed. The one mechanic i do love about DOA5 tho, is that launchers work on NH, so there is that option, though it doesn't net a lot of damage.

Buncha random notes: Lisa can sidestep in BT! :eek: Apparently, it doesn't work with the button command, and it only works reliably with 88, not 22. Seems like a glitch to me, albeit a functional one. It isn't a "true" sidestep, i think what happens is that you cancel the freerun into a...

Yeah, i agree with you there, i thought we'd have a lot more of that good stuff, but i guess TN pussied out before launch :rolleyes:

Nice PR move, by TN! Christie's old DOA4 costume makes me want to pick her ass up again!

Lisa: while lying face up, legs toward opponent: :F+K:, :K: lying face up, heads toward opponent: :F+P:, its an OH too if im not mistaken

nice job TN!

Wow, this has to be the most unhype RE release ever, especially for a canon game. I completely forgot it was even coming out, and those scores! :eek: The fuck did Capcom do to this game? lol

I just checked, booty bump doesnt give limbo stun even on hi counter anymore :( Anyone found a use for Lisa's new qcf OH? It looks like it can crush highs because of the ducking animation but i have not had any luck using it like that. 66 OH is faster, has roughly the same(or even more) range...

Honestly, at this point i'm not really using it :confused: If i do use it, i usually just cancel into sidestep.

Yeah, that's what was throwing me off, thanks for the heads up.

Wow, impressive post, Ailing! Pam would be proud! ;)

Got it, thanks Pai.

I . . . have never understood why this game needs slow escapes tbh. We already have enough defense in this game :confused:

In that example, Fang can use a move that IS 16 frames tho to punish tho, correct?

THANK YOU, dude, praise Lilith. Lei Fei is ass slow, but he is compensated by evasive moves and sabakis, it is so funny because i was just making this comparison in my head earlier to Lisa, who has none of that good shit but is STILL slow. I can't speak for Helena, but Lisa would benefit...

How on earth can Lisa "confuse" people when she's ass slow? They either need to speed up her moves, or compensate her for her slowness, in a game where someone can counter or sidestep on reaction, that shit doesn't cut it. I hope they reconsider her design.

yes i understand, thank you. :)

yeah, i agree 1k knocking down on normal sucks, i was looking forward to the sitdown from DOA4, but they changed it. It's main function now is to be a full circular sweep, so it has its uses. It's still Lisa's only low tool worth using, i find the K from 66PK to be too slow and risky to use...

I understand, but does that mean we add an extra frame to EVERY attack in training mode? Like, if a move says 14 frames, it's really 15 frames? That's why i'm a bit confused, i dont think it worked like that in VF:FS training mode.