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Heyhey, you don't have to get defencive, we've all been there. ;-) It is a complex game, and it takes time to get into shape. Personally I'd had a 2 week break and felt like crap when I came back into it. Another move I recommend you use is 6pk2k + 2H+K for force tech, 6k2k and 1k6p2k2k and...

Aye, based on this video I can see the most obvious weakness is that you don't block. ;) You also use a lot of slow frame moves and attack from disadvantage all the time. If you finish a string when he is blocking, people will assume in most cases that you are at frame disadvantage, even if they...

If they manage to let their costumes "make sense" for the individual, I see no reason for it not to be there, no matter what holiday it is based off. Thanksgiving could be something totally different for the different characters, just like the haloween have similar holidays over here in the EU...

Good job!

This Jacky was really cool.

Well, if you learn the framedata you will be well on your way. :) 6P is 13 frames and her fastest mid. then you have the 10 frame p. 6K is also 13 frames I think. Then you need to start using 9H which is her punchparry. You can only use it in neutral stance before you are hit (blocking first is...

I don't know. But your vote won't get counted towards the list unless you vote for all of the roster. So if you want to boost those characters you should find it in your heart to make a full list. Start with your likes and dislikes, and you'd end up with a list before you know it. Edit: And...

Updated the girls (coming back to the guys in a sec)

Well, though it may seem noble, new people take this as an good and updated list. "Evidence": The final draft of the DoA5 tiers came about 1 month before DoA5U. In other words it took close to 11 months to "complete it". If we start 11 months from now there is a good chance we'll never...

Hold takes practice and understanding of the opponent. Once you start recognizing the opponents moves set, you'd know exactly when to hold for the different moves. But it is not that simple, first off you have the ability to delay moves, stop string and switch to another move set, different...

Also, if you get to a place where pads have an even huger advantage over controllers, then the casual gamer will get tiered fast. It would kill online play.

Well, unless you are Xcaliburblades or Lopedo, then this viewpoint kinda rings hollow in my view. Become the champion before you disrespect the challenge, and maybe one day you'll become Mitsurugi, the wandering samurai who's goal is simply to find a worthy foe.

Well, it was not easy for Galileo to convince the authorities that the world was heliocentric. I guess the discussion of tier lists are just as challenging on the power structures of FSD. ;)

But... this is how the system is supposed to work. If we "the community" figures out some good counter arguments we change the tier list accordingly. After each patch or "new discoveries through discussion" we may have to look at it again and again and again. By this perfectionist ideals we...

It is not to early to discuss an estimate though. Right now people are using the old tier list as an estimate and that makes DoA5U looks bad in my eyes as new people get the impression that it is not a new game at all. In other communities they have a tier list ready by the end of launch day! :P

Has this become the new general thread? :P Perhaps we should start discussing DoA5U tier lists. I've made one for Hitomi and Ein, so if anyone feel for discussing a particular setup head over to their respective thread in Ein and Hitomi.

They need to replace alpha with a more esthetic cyborg girl. Mechanics aside I must agree that her looks is really off putting and not giving her much love.

Aye, I don't doubt Zack has an edge on Ein, but for Rig it might be more the X-factor into play, and not so much the character. I've played some Rig and has noticed several weaknesses that would perhaps be very hard to spot unless you've seen them for yourself. He does for instance has a...

Ye I know, but as the commentator mentions Rig has a lot of X-factor, like people are not used to fighting him because there are so few that play Rig. Kinda the same as with Zack.