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In a few hours, I find out if this is where I start winning or losing for real. See you guys on the PSN.

you're just... so retarded with your random ass comments. All I can see now is Ryu with his doa2 costume head gear, and then just mma trunks like zack's, then both of them rolling up in a tag match. XD

How do offensive holds match up to grabs? What wins?

i wonder what balance issues sprung up that caused them to make Eliot's 6k wall splat in combos... changes a lot of things. Oh well...

Ahhh that sucks. I'm just sick of sidestepping moves like 66k from Kasumi and losing my tracking on her when she does it, leaving me backturned at negative frames if I planned on punishing with a side step attack. I hope that gets fixed, I mean it was a good read on a linear move right...

Indeed, but the netcode sucks. There's a lot of shit both of us shouldn't have gotten away with.

... anyway... what's the side step glitch. Is it when you side step but it doesn't track them moving past you, and you're sitting there backturned at negative frames to them? I agree that the OH property is much, but at the same time... I mean yea there is always a way around it... if it gets...

Interesting read. Sometimes I really just don't understand people. Their views seem twisted from my angle, and likewise to them. Fuck.

When did I start the fight bro? When did I call for him to say some shit slick, and then pull back because he's too afraid to restate it because I'm not about to continue to take his smart ass comments because he loses to me all the time? I'm not hot shit. I know that. Neither is he. He wants to...

Like I said. I adapted. At the time he did find a gaping hole, but it didn't mean I couldn't beat him. The point is I don't want him to fall back on one move and hope it's gunna work everytime. Obviously I found a way around it though it took a bit long considering I was trying to hold and...

Hmmm. I've got an idea. How about we ask em to nerf everyone and then buff Zack and Hayate... Then lets just change the game name to Dead or Zack and Hayate. That'd be my shit since I mained both of them at some point huehuehuehue >:D All jokes aside though, I'm really hyped for this patch...

Meh, sometimes I don't really understand why people want all games to hold the same mechanics. I don't want DOA5 to mirror Tekken at all...

Lol. Yea I mean you know how dem low holds tech crouch them true mids.

There's always room for growth as a player akhi. I'd like to see you do something other than turtle back as far as you can and throw that block breaking kick with Lisa cause there's oh so much more to Lisa, I sure can tell you that. I'm not asking him to grow at my beck and call either. I'm...

Bullshit. Your main argument has been, lets make low holds punishable by standing holds. That's why this has dragged out for so long. We could've come to the impasse that low holds should have more recovery at the beginning of this. and I've been honestly dancing around these two things...

Ayane's 66KK4 is bad with the netcode but it's honestly not that terrible. Even still I wouldn't mind it not jailing, but I like the moves advantage and such nonetheless, and hell I don't even play Ayane. The nice thing is it's Mid High though so once they take away the jailing it'll be easy...

I see. That explains why I saw four. Thanks for the info, I'm going to put that in the Kokoro Combo topic.

The answer is yes. Everytime you wait to standing throw the opponent, it's no different than waiting and low throwing the opponent, except you pick a different grab, just like you pick forward grab for a standing throw(cause I hope you're not trying to punish with a low damage neutral throw that...

It's 9p,9p,9p, p2kp. Idk why there's such a difference, maybe float properties but that's what the person told me. He also said it was... maybe you need another 9p.

You've gotta stop your offense to standing throw right? Yet you want standing throws to grab low holders? So tell me what happens to low holds when low grabs come into play? Does this mean that they'll only work on low guarding people? Or will both heights grab it? What would be the point of a...