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  1. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    That relies on her guessing right constantly, she can't be right all the time. Plus she has to get them into her "loop" to stay out of neutral. You start away from your opponent, and will often find yourself being spaced before you can get into the right position. Regardless of how good her...
  2. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    I'm curious to see how Helena's match ups play out. When you compare her overall tools to other characters her match ups look bad but she has got her force tech mind games. Pros: Force tech mid games Good Launchers Solid Mix ups Good side steps Cons: Low damage Slowest non grappler No safe...
  3. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    Helena's 66KPP when fully charged is +2, so what? Not every guard crush in the game is great. 66K +5 4PK +9 PP4PK +9 6KP +14 The last one is slow I'll give you that but saying his guard crushes are useless is such crap. Almost every guard crush in the game is slow>ish. Might as well disregard...
  4. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    When Busa players say things like "no strengths" that's when I begin to turn off somewhat. It simply isn't true, he has "the best pressure game against blocking opponents". those guard crushes are soooo good and it's not like he can't change his strings if people start countering them. Saying he...
  5. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    I just can't wrap my head around this Hayabusa is absolute garbage thing that I keep hearing. So he isn't great at everything like he used to be. His crushes are still solid, he has a variety of safe strings, lots of guard crushes that track, high damage output. So Hayate does "everything"...
  6. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena combo thread

    I don't get this one, replacing :6: :6: :K: with :4::P::P::P: does more damage and sets up her pseudo force tech. Does this combo work in a way that I'm not getting? This works on Counter Hit. No trying to knit pick just offering some feedback.
  7. Omegan Eckhart

    About morons online

    People are just flat out pathetic online. I go into lobbies land say a 12 win streak or so, I don't taunt or beat people about after KO, I am as respectful as possible when dealing with other players. But as soon as I lose one match the person I lost to goes out of their way to be a c**t to me...
  8. Omegan Eckhart

    A good graple punish when baiting a counter?

    In regards to > > >:214: :f+p: :4::P::K: :3::3: :P::4::P: After landing the grab only :6::P::P: is guaranteed so I wouldn't use :4::p::K: unless they choose not to block. They can block :4::P: by simply holding guard.
  9. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    Thinking of Gen Fu seeing as he has a grab that launches couldn't he set up pseudo force tech set ups similar to Helena? I can't imagine it would be as effective but would it be possible?
  10. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    What Mr. Wah said is correct, in my experience A grade players are far worse in this game than they were in DOA4. I'm not sure why. The only thing about Ayane that is tough>er to use than other characters is her spins. Other than that her pokes are really fast and easy to throw out, her 4P is...
  11. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    You and DR2K are made for one another. PP2KP wasn't her best combo ender because it did the most damage it was because it was a universal air juggle working on all weight classes and off of any launch. Damage wise 66KPP was and is her best combo ender. Like you said though 33P4P lands even...
  12. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    Touche good sir, but that is the only time when PPK works and 236PKP doesn't lol
  13. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    That statement means nothing to me, can you elaborate? I probably missed a post somewhere...
  14. Omegan Eckhart

    The Official Dead or Alive 5 Tier List with Discussion thread

    But as a grappler you do have a low OH that will eliminate her BKO duck and any attack she does from BKO. The only thing she can do to avoid a low OH is to cancel out of BKO to avoid the grab. You have a tool that eliminates every one of her options except one when blocking her 3in1's. Make sure...
  15. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    But BKO 6PPK leaves Helena in BKO, she can't do 236P from BKO?!
  16. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    You don't understand, 236P has a larger hitbox than P does that's why 236P lands when P doesn't. Honestly just try this out: BT P+K on CH > 236PKP then try BT P+K on CH > PPK. You will see what I mean, seriously try it.
  17. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    Nope, if I can land 236PKP on an airborne opponent but not PPK off the same height then the former is better. But even if that were the case now we have 33P4P which lands off of the most pathetic launch height.
  18. Omegan Eckhart

    ur opinion on safe and unsafe moves?

    Online isn't a great judge of how a game plays lol.
  19. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    You mean PP2KP? 236PKP is better than PP2KP in this game. It will land off of juggles that PPK won't. Do BT P+K on (CH), 236PKP will land fully but even the first jab from PPK misses. They lowered the hitbox of the first punch from 236PKP to compensate for the removal of PP2KP and it did work...
  20. Omegan Eckhart

    Helena's needed improvements

    I'd like her to be made overall better but I doubt they will change anything major in the patch. If they take out her force tech they won't buff her to compensate as it would take too much work. It's either this or total garbage Helena. I honestly believe this was intentional, universally...
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