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They're not? So if I go to online dojo and use christie and have someone block 6pp will the frames not be -15? If I use helena and have someone block 4pp from her back turn it won't be -. It's the same frames and animations. This tier list displays how stupid this game is. Let's take Mila for...

Here's my tier list: S: Helena, Christie, Leifang, Gen Fu, Alpha 152, Kasumi, Ayane, Hayate, Ryu, Mai, Pai, Hitomi, Zack, Phase 4, Momiji, Kokoro, Mila, Rachel, Leon (On Dangerzone) A: Akira, Jacky, Eliot, Bass, Tina, Sarah, Bayman, Jann Lee, Lisa, Brad, Leon (Home), Tournament Rig B: Honoka...

I only have maybe two questions in regards to your points. Which are pretty valid in regards to Leifang (Though I still think she's higher in regards to tier list or at least top 5.). 1) If you say the best match-up characters have speed and constant pressure, why not put characters like...

Basically what F.O.N. said. Also Marie Rose is way too high. There are a lot of disagreements, even for online but I'll list them later.

Updated overall tier list in no order: S+: Leifang S: Christie, Helena, Gen Fu S-: Akira, Hayate, Rig A+: Ayane, Kasumi, Mai, Mila, Pai, Ryu, Sarah, Tina, A: Hitomi, Jacky, Eliot, Kokoro, Momiji, Rachel, Zack A-: Bayman, Jann Lee, Leon, Phase 4 B+: Ein, Lisa, Nyotengu, Raidou, B: Alpha 152...

Updated tier list in no order S+: Gen Fu, Leifang, Christie S: Helena, S-: Akira, Rig, A+: Hayate, Kasumi, Pai, Ryu, Ayane A: Zack, Mila, Sarah A-: Hitomi, Momiji, Mai, Kokoro, Jacky, Phase 4 B+: Rachel, Bayman, Jann Lee, Tina, Leon, B: Eliot, Raidou, Lisa, Bass, Nyotengu, Marie Rose, Honoka...

Updated tier list in no order S+: Gen Fu, Leifang, Christie S: Helena, S-: Akira, Rig, Ayane A+: Hayate, Kasumi, Pai, Ryu A: Zack, Mila, Sarah A-: Hitomi, Momiji, Mai, Kokoro, Jacky, Phase 4 B+: Rachel, Bayman, Jann Lee, Tina, Leon, B: Eliot, Raidou, Lisa, Bass, Nyotengu, Naotora B-: Brad Wong...